GDocs also have the ability to subscribe to all comments so that works as
well.

This does add another system to our infrastructure, versus using Jira. But
I think a spreadsheet for tracking what has been sent and when, it could be
helpful to have the added structure.

Kenn

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:05 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:

> Here is an idea how this could be done: Create a JIRA ticket that will
> always remain open. Have folks append their suggested tweets as comments.
> Interested PMC members can watch that ticket.
>
> Thomas
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:41 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Pinging individual PMC members doesn't work. There needs to be visibility
>> to proposed actions to anyone that is interested. That would require a form
>> of subscribe/notification mechanism (as exists for PRs and JIRAs).
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:33 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> With the spreadsheet in http://s.apache.org/beam-tweets, anyone can
>>> propose tweets. I will check it every few days, and ping/tag PMC members to
>>> review tweets and publish. Does that sound fine?
>>> If you have ideas on how to make the process better, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aizhamal
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 4:10 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> What would be the mechanism to notify the PMC that there is something
>>>> to review?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bringing the PMC's conclusion back to this list, we are happy to start
>>>>> with the following arrangement:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Doc/spreadsheet/etc readable by dev@ (aka the public), writable by
>>>>> some group of contributors to set up a queue of news
>>>>>  - Any member of PMC approves and executes the posts, with enough time
>>>>> elapsing to consider it lazy consensus
>>>>>
>>>>> Any mistake transcribing this conclusion is my own. And of course
>>>>> nothing is permanent, but we try and iterate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>>> aizha...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have created a spreadsheet where people can suggest tweets [1]. It
>>>>>> contains a couple of tweets that have been tweeted as examples. Also, 
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are a couple others that I will ask PMC members to review in the next few
>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have also created a blog post[2] to invite community members to
>>>>>> participate by proposing tweets / retweets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this look OK to everyone? I’d love to try it out and see if it
>>>>>> drives engagement in the community. If not we can always change the
>>>>>> processes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> aizhamal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] s.apache.org/beam-tweets
>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/8747
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:26 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for taking on this work!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:52 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>>>>> aizha...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to pilot this if that's okay by everyone. I'll set up a
>>>>>>>> spreadsheet, write a blog post publicizing it, and perhaps send out a
>>>>>>>> tweet. We can improve the process later with tools if necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks all and have a great weekend!
>>>>>>>> Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:37 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great idea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Austin - point well taken about whether the PMC really has to
>>>>>>>>> micro-manage here. The stakes are potentially very high, but so are 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> stakes for code and website changes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know that comdev votes authoring privileges to people who are
>>>>>>>>> not committers, but they are not speaking on behalf of comdev but 
>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>> their own name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's definitely find a way to be effective on social media.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:14 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aizhamal,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a great idea. I think it would help Beam to be more
>>>>>>>>>> prominent on
>>>>>>>>>> social media.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need to discuss this also on the private@ mailing list but I
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> see anything standing in the way if the PMC always gets to
>>>>>>>>>> approve the
>>>>>>>>>> proposed social media postings.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I could even imagine that the PMC gives rights to a Beam
>>>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>>>> member to post in their name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 21.05.19 03:09, Austin Bennett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Is PMC definitely in charge of this (approving, communication
>>>>>>>>>> channel,
>>>>>>>>>> > etc)?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > There could even be a more concrete pull-request-like function
>>>>>>>>>> even for
>>>>>>>>>> > things like tweets (to minimize cut/paste operations)?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I remember a bit of a mechanism having been proposed some time
>>>>>>>>>> ago (in
>>>>>>>>>> > another circumstance), though doesn't look like it made it
>>>>>>>>>> terribly far:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.redhenlab.org/home/the-cognitive-core-research-topics-in-red-hen/the-barnyard/-slick-tweeting
>>>>>>>>>> > (I haven't otherwise seen such functionality).
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:54 PM Robert Burke <
>>>>>>>>>> rob...@frantil.com
>>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:rob...@frantil.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >     +1
>>>>>>>>>> >     As a twitter user, I like this idea.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >     On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 15:18, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
>>>>>>>>>> >     <aizha...@google.com <mailto:aizha...@google.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >         Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >         What does the community think of making Apache Beam’s
>>>>>>>>>> social
>>>>>>>>>> >         media presence more active and more community driven?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >         The Slack and StackOverflow for Apache Beam offer
>>>>>>>>>> pretty nice
>>>>>>>>>> >         support, but we still could utilize Twitter & LinkedIn
>>>>>>>>>> better to
>>>>>>>>>> >         share more interesting Beam news. For example, we could
>>>>>>>>>> tweet to
>>>>>>>>>> >         welcome new committers, announce new features
>>>>>>>>>> consistently,
>>>>>>>>>> >         share and recognize contributions, promote events and
>>>>>>>>>> meetups,
>>>>>>>>>> >         share other news that are relevant to Beam, big data,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >         I understand that PMC members may not have time to do
>>>>>>>>>> curation,
>>>>>>>>>> >         moderation and creation of content; so I was wondering
>>>>>>>>>> if we
>>>>>>>>>> >         could create a spreadsheet where community members
>>>>>>>>>> could propose
>>>>>>>>>> >         posts with publishing dates, and let somebody to filter,
>>>>>>>>>> >         moderate, and manage it; then send to a PMC member for
>>>>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >         I would love to help where I can in this regard. I’ve
>>>>>>>>>> had some
>>>>>>>>>> >         experience doing social media elsewhere in the past.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >         Best
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >         Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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