Pinging individual PMC members doesn't work. There needs to be visibility to proposed actions to anyone that is interested. That would require a form of subscribe/notification mechanism (as exists for PRs and JIRAs).
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:33 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizha...@apache.org> wrote: > With the spreadsheet in http://s.apache.org/beam-tweets, anyone can > propose tweets. I will check it every few days, and ping/tag PMC members to > review tweets and publish. Does that sound fine? > If you have ideas on how to make the process better, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Aizhamal > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 4:10 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> What would be the mechanism to notify the PMC that there is something to >> review? >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Bringing the PMC's conclusion back to this list, we are happy to start >>> with the following arrangement: >>> >>> - Doc/spreadsheet/etc readable by dev@ (aka the public), writable by >>> some group of contributors to set up a queue of news >>> - Any member of PMC approves and executes the posts, with enough time >>> elapsing to consider it lazy consensus >>> >>> Any mistake transcribing this conclusion is my own. And of course >>> nothing is permanent, but we try and iterate. >>> >>> Kenn >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy < >>> aizha...@google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello folks, >>>> >>>> I have created a spreadsheet where people can suggest tweets [1]. It >>>> contains a couple of tweets that have been tweeted as examples. Also, there >>>> are a couple others that I will ask PMC members to review in the next few >>>> days. >>>> >>>> I have also created a blog post[2] to invite community members to >>>> participate by proposing tweets / retweets. >>>> >>>> Does this look OK to everyone? I’d love to try it out and see if it >>>> drives engagement in the community. If not we can always change the >>>> processes. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> aizhamal >>>> >>>> [1] s.apache.org/beam-tweets >>>> [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/8747 >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:26 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for taking on this work! >>>>> >>>>> Kenn >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:52 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy < >>>>> aizha...@google.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to pilot this if that's okay by everyone. I'll set up a >>>>>> spreadsheet, write a blog post publicizing it, and perhaps send out a >>>>>> tweet. We can improve the process later with tools if necessary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks all and have a great weekend! >>>>>> Aizhamal >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:37 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Great idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Austin - point well taken about whether the PMC really has to >>>>>>> micro-manage here. The stakes are potentially very high, but so are the >>>>>>> stakes for code and website changes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that comdev votes authoring privileges to people who are not >>>>>>> committers, but they are not speaking on behalf of comdev but under >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> own name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's definitely find a way to be effective on social media. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kenn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:14 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Aizhamal, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is a great idea. I think it would help Beam to be more >>>>>>>> prominent on >>>>>>>> social media. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We need to discuss this also on the private@ mailing list but I >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> see anything standing in the way if the PMC always gets to approve >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> proposed social media postings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I could even imagine that the PMC gives rights to a Beam community >>>>>>>> member to post in their name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Max >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 21.05.19 03:09, Austin Bennett wrote: >>>>>>>> > Is PMC definitely in charge of this (approving, communication >>>>>>>> channel, >>>>>>>> > etc)? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > There could even be a more concrete pull-request-like function >>>>>>>> even for >>>>>>>> > things like tweets (to minimize cut/paste operations)? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I remember a bit of a mechanism having been proposed some time >>>>>>>> ago (in >>>>>>>> > another circumstance), though doesn't look like it made it >>>>>>>> terribly far: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.redhenlab.org/home/the-cognitive-core-research-topics-in-red-hen/the-barnyard/-slick-tweeting >>>>>>>> > (I haven't otherwise seen such functionality). >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:54 PM Robert Burke <rob...@frantil.com >>>>>>>> > <mailto:rob...@frantil.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > +1 >>>>>>>> > As a twitter user, I like this idea. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 15:18, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy >>>>>>>> > <aizha...@google.com <mailto:aizha...@google.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Hello everyone, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > What does the community think of making Apache Beam’s >>>>>>>> social >>>>>>>> > media presence more active and more community driven? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The Slack and StackOverflow for Apache Beam offer pretty >>>>>>>> nice >>>>>>>> > support, but we still could utilize Twitter & LinkedIn >>>>>>>> better to >>>>>>>> > share more interesting Beam news. For example, we could >>>>>>>> tweet to >>>>>>>> > welcome new committers, announce new features >>>>>>>> consistently, >>>>>>>> > share and recognize contributions, promote events and >>>>>>>> meetups, >>>>>>>> > share other news that are relevant to Beam, big data, etc. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I understand that PMC members may not have time to do >>>>>>>> curation, >>>>>>>> > moderation and creation of content; so I was wondering if >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> > could create a spreadsheet where community members could >>>>>>>> propose >>>>>>>> > posts with publishing dates, and let somebody to filter, >>>>>>>> > moderate, and manage it; then send to a PMC member for >>>>>>>> publication. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I would love to help where I can in this regard. I’ve had >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> > experience doing social media elsewhere in the past. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Best >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Aizhamal >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
