>
> Since we want to move forward with the PR, I would like to ask the
> community to hold off changes to the current Beam website for a week, until
> we are able to review and merge the PR. Is this acceptable to everyone?

Do we have an exact date when we can push changes to the website? I have
PRs to update documents so would like to plan ahead.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 1:17 PM Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> I tried my best to handle renamed files in Git. I have no clue why GitHub
> doesn't show it, but finally, I made this commit [1] (thanks for your
> idea @bhulette) so you guys can review changes with ease (there is no bunch
> of deleted markdown files anymore :D). Also, new staged version is
> deployed, you could check it out [2].
>
> In case you are interested in translation, here is the proof of concept
> [3] (the earth icon on the right corner is temporarily used for switching
> languages). You can take a look at the translation guide for this PoC [4].
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11554/commits/b267bb360866a723ac2536f408f23de648c7cd4d
> [2]
> http://apache-beam-website-pull-requests.storage.googleapis.com/11554/index.html
> [3] https://safe-relation.surge.sh/
> [4]
> https://github.com/PolideaInternal/beam/blob/website-develop/website/CONTRIBUTE.md#translation-guide
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 7:24 PM Brian Hulette <bhule...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Changing the URLs is fine with me as long as the old urls will work too.
>>
>> But do we need to change the filenames for the blog posts to accomplish
>> that? It's nice that the blog post markdown files start with a date so they
>> naturally sort chronologically. It looks like this hugo PR [1] made it
>> possible to extract date metadata and slug
>> (i.e. dataflow-python-sdk-is-now-public) separately from the filename.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo/pull/4494
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:06 AM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:55 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For changed URLs, will previous URLs be mapped to avoid broken external
>>>> links?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I believe the answer is yes from Nam's response "For now, we keep the
>>> old URLs working in terms of redirecting them". I very much agree that this
>>> is very important and should work for all existing urls.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:34 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> To give a little more context regarding the URLs, the date should
>>>>> still appear on the blog post, but not on the URL.
>>>>> For example, we'd have:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/beam/python/sdk/2016/02/25/python-sdk-now-public.html
>>>>> become https://beam.apache.org/blog/dataflow-python-sdk-is-now-public/
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> I am not a content marketer. IMO, this is a good change. In the past, a
>>> few times, we edited dates on posts (e.g. a release date was entered
>>> incorrectly) and we had to either have a mismatch between dates in the url
>>> and the date in the blog, or change the url. This change simplifies, by
>>> having date only in place (in content metadata).
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The blog posts would have a small header showing the title, author and
>>>>> publish date. But the URL would not have it.
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:23 AM Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @altay: Hey hey. Yeah, I didn't expect the baseUrl of staging version
>>>>>> is "
>>>>>> http://apache-beam-website-pull-requests.storage.googleapis.com/11554/";
>>>>>> which also includes "/11554", and Hugo considers it as a path so it 
>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>> the path of "static files" (like images). We made a fix. Now I'm working 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> "getting git to recognize files as renames" as you suggested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @robert: The dates are nice but it causes verbose/long/ugly URLs. We
>>>>>> discussed with Aizhamal in the development stage and agreed to get rid of
>>>>>> this. For now, we keep the old URLs working in terms of redirecting them.
>>>>>> However, from now on, we should change the name convention on blog posts 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have a fancy URL like "beam.apache.org/blog/myblogpost.md". :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:57 AM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 5:08 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nam, this looks better. At least links are working, and the website
>>>>>>>> visually looks similar and generally in good shape. I think there are 
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> issues. For example, I do not see any of the images (e.g. the beam 
>>>>>>>> logo on
>>>>>>>> top left is missing.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:11 PM Brian Hulette <bhule...@google.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I left a comment on the PR [1]. I think the reason all of the
>>>>>>>>> website content is not being tracked as file renames is because there 
>>>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>> series of commits that created files in the new directory, and then 
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> commit that deleted the old directory. If there were a single commit 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> all of the deleted and new files, git would surely recognize they are
>>>>>>>>> effectively renameds and mark them as such. Maybe we just need to get 
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> these commits squashed into one?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11554#issuecomment-621489844
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nam, could you try this? If we can get git to recognize these as
>>>>>>>> renames, review process would be much easier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternatively, create a commit that just moves the files into a new
>>>>>>> location (which git can always detect), then sit the edits on top of 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> (which should preserve history better).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, is there a reason the dates were removed from the blog post
>>>>>>> filenames? For content like that, the dates are nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:39 AM Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm Nam - from the responsible team of Apache Beam website
>>>>>>>>>> migration. I am pleased to answer some of the questions here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> @aizhamal: Thanks for informing to the community. :)
>>>>>>>>>> @altay, @robertwb: Yes. there is a problem with the staged
>>>>>>>>>> version at the moment. We didn't expect some behaviours on the build
>>>>>>>>>> process. So, we fixed it today and been waiting for @pablo to re-run 
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> again. The purpose of this PR is to migrate completely Beam site from
>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll to Hugo. Therefore, a bunch of deleted markdown files are from
>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll which was located at `beam/website/src`, and Hugo is located 
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> `beam/website/www` now. In `beam/website/README.md`, I wrote down 
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> running the Hugo website locally, although it is actually same as 
>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll
>>>>>>>>>> (because it's also set up with Docker & Gradle). In
>>>>>>>>>> `beam/website/CONTRIBUTE.md`, I guided people on how to get started 
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> Hugo on the Beam website. There is also a link in the "Translation 
>>>>>>>>>> Guide"
>>>>>>>>>> section which points to a branch of multilingual provenance, and it 
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> become a next PR soon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you need more details. Feel free to ask any
>>>>>>>>>> questions and I will get back to you with answers. I'm so sorry if I 
>>>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>>>> a little bit due to the timezone. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Nam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:49 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>>>>>>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Adding +Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com> and +Karolina Rosół
>>>>>>>>>>> <karolina.ro...@polidea.com> to follow up on questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:34 AM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having trouble reviewing the staged version. What is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> best way to review this change?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we expect any changes to markdown files, beyond some
>>>>>>>>>>>> metadata?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:45 AM Robert Bradshaw <
>>>>>>>>>>>> rober...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. It'll be great to better support more languages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at the PR and there seems to be no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provenance/history. E.g. all the content seems to be entirely new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than diffs from the old. (There also seems to be a huge 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> auto-generated js code as well.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. This makes it very hard to review. I also see a bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>> of deleted markdown files. Are they not getting migrated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:23 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are almost done migrating the Apache Beam website from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll to Hugo. You can see the PR in [1], and we'd love to hear 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback/comments on the PR. It includes  detailed guidelines on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing to the new Hugo-based website and adding 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translations to pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]. For those who are curious about adding new languages, we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a proof of concept in the next couple of days in this thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we want to move forward with the PR, I would like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask the community to hold off changes to the current Beam 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, until we are able to review and merge the PR. Is this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anyone missed my previous email with the background
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the website migration, you can find more context here [3].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11554
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/256b7042bf504b94f161ca03b388a2ba247918d9/website/CONTRIBUTE.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r7fa6d710c0a1959cce5108e460d71c306ce5756cf96af818b41cb7ca%40%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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