Nam,

 - Website looks good and looks the same as the current website. (Visually
comparing a few pages, not a deep analysis.)
- contribute.md looks good. (this is new content.)
- website/Dockerfile and website/README.md changes look good.
- I do not know what is the new version of some files, for example:
website/src/_data/authors.yml,  website/src/_data/capability-matrix.yml --
what replaces them?

There are 887 file changes. It is not easy to review this. I wanted to go
commit by commit, but that did not help much. How about we try to organize
this review as reviewable commits.
- Changes to the mechanics (jekyll to hugo), themes, build files, website
related readmes etc. This will likely be a smaller change in number of
files. (This will likely have many completed new, and completely deleted
files. Only a few files have meaningful diffs.)
- Changes to the content. This might be a large number of files with
minimal changes. I do not think we can manually review each file, but at
least a quick review of minimal changes to each file would be good enough.

What do you think?

Ahmet

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 4:29 PM Hannah Jiang <hannahji...@google.com> wrote:

> Since we want to move forward with the PR, I would like to ask the
>> community to hold off changes to the current Beam website for a week, until
>> we are able to review and merge the PR. Is this acceptable to everyone?
>
> Do we have an exact date when we can push changes to the website? I have
> PRs to update documents so would like to plan ahead.
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 1:17 PM Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I tried my best to handle renamed files in Git. I have no clue why GitHub
>> doesn't show it, but finally, I made this commit [1] (thanks for your
>> idea @bhulette) so you guys can review changes with ease (there is no bunch
>> of deleted markdown files anymore :D). Also, new staged version is
>> deployed, you could check it out [2].
>>
>> In case you are interested in translation, here is the proof of concept
>> [3] (the earth icon on the right corner is temporarily used for switching
>> languages). You can take a look at the translation guide for this PoC [4].
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11554/commits/b267bb360866a723ac2536f408f23de648c7cd4d
>> [2]
>> http://apache-beam-website-pull-requests.storage.googleapis.com/11554/index.html
>> [3] https://safe-relation.surge.sh/
>> [4]
>> https://github.com/PolideaInternal/beam/blob/website-develop/website/CONTRIBUTE.md#translation-guide
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 7:24 PM Brian Hulette <bhule...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Changing the URLs is fine with me as long as the old urls will work too.
>>>
>>> But do we need to change the filenames for the blog posts to accomplish
>>> that? It's nice that the blog post markdown files start with a date so they
>>> naturally sort chronologically. It looks like this hugo PR [1] made it
>>> possible to extract date metadata and slug
>>> (i.e. dataflow-python-sdk-is-now-public) separately from the filename.
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo/pull/4494
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:06 AM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:55 AM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For changed URLs, will previous URLs be mapped to avoid broken
>>>>> external links?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe the answer is yes from Nam's response "For now, we keep the
>>>> old URLs working in terms of redirecting them". I very much agree that this
>>>> is very important and should work for all existing urls.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:34 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To give a little more context regarding the URLs, the date should
>>>>>> still appear on the blog post, but not on the URL.
>>>>>> For example, we'd have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/beam/python/sdk/2016/02/25/python-sdk-now-public.html
>>>>>> become
>>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/blog/dataflow-python-sdk-is-now-public/.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I am not a content marketer. IMO, this is a good change. In the past, a
>>>> few times, we edited dates on posts (e.g. a release date was entered
>>>> incorrectly) and we had to either have a mismatch between dates in the url
>>>> and the date in the blog, or change the url. This change simplifies, by
>>>> having date only in place (in content metadata).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The blog posts would have a small header showing the title, author
>>>>>> and publish date. But the URL would not have it.
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:23 AM Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @altay: Hey hey. Yeah, I didn't expect the baseUrl of staging
>>>>>>> version is "
>>>>>>> http://apache-beam-website-pull-requests.storage.googleapis.com/11554/";
>>>>>>> which also includes "/11554", and Hugo considers it as a path so it 
>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>> the path of "static files" (like images). We made a fix. Now I'm 
>>>>>>> working on
>>>>>>> "getting git to recognize files as renames" as you suggested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @robert: The dates are nice but it causes verbose/long/ugly URLs. We
>>>>>>> discussed with Aizhamal in the development stage and agreed to get rid 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> this. For now, we keep the old URLs working in terms of redirecting 
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> However, from now on, we should change the name convention on blog 
>>>>>>> posts to
>>>>>>> have a fancy URL like "beam.apache.org/blog/myblogpost.md". :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:57 AM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 5:08 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nam, this looks better. At least links are working, and the
>>>>>>>>> website visually looks similar and generally in good shape. I think 
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> are still issues. For example, I do not see any of the images (e.g. 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> beam logo on top left is missing.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:11 PM Brian Hulette <bhule...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I left a comment on the PR [1]. I think the reason all of the
>>>>>>>>>> website content is not being tracked as file renames is because 
>>>>>>>>>> there was a
>>>>>>>>>> series of commits that created files in the new directory, and then 
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> commit that deleted the old directory. If there were a single commit 
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> all of the deleted and new files, git would surely recognize they are
>>>>>>>>>> effectively renameds and mark them as such. Maybe we just need to 
>>>>>>>>>> get all
>>>>>>>>>> these commits squashed into one?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11554#issuecomment-621489844
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nam, could you try this? If we can get git to recognize these as
>>>>>>>>> renames, review process would be much easier.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alternatively, create a commit that just moves the files into a new
>>>>>>>> location (which git can always detect), then sit the edits on top of 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> (which should preserve history better).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, is there a reason the dates were removed from the blog post
>>>>>>>> filenames? For content like that, the dates are nice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:39 AM Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm Nam - from the responsible team of Apache Beam website
>>>>>>>>>>> migration. I am pleased to answer some of the questions here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> @aizhamal: Thanks for informing to the community. :)
>>>>>>>>>>> @altay, @robertwb: Yes. there is a problem with the staged
>>>>>>>>>>> version at the moment. We didn't expect some behaviours on the build
>>>>>>>>>>> process. So, we fixed it today and been waiting for @pablo to 
>>>>>>>>>>> re-run it
>>>>>>>>>>> again. The purpose of this PR is to migrate completely Beam site 
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll to Hugo. Therefore, a bunch of deleted markdown files are 
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll which was located at `beam/website/src`, and Hugo is located 
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> `beam/website/www` now. In `beam/website/README.md`, I wrote down 
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> running the Hugo website locally, although it is actually same as 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll
>>>>>>>>>>> (because it's also set up with Docker & Gradle). In
>>>>>>>>>>> `beam/website/CONTRIBUTE.md`, I guided people on how to get started 
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> Hugo on the Beam website. There is also a link in the "Translation 
>>>>>>>>>>> Guide"
>>>>>>>>>>> section which points to a branch of multilingual provenance, and it 
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> become a next PR soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you need more details. Feel free to ask
>>>>>>>>>>> any questions and I will get back to you with answers. I'm so sorry 
>>>>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>>>>> answer a little bit due to the timezone. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Nam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:49 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>>>>>>>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding +Nam Bui <nam....@polidea.com> and +Karolina Rosół
>>>>>>>>>>>> <karolina.ro...@polidea.com> to follow up on questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:34 AM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having trouble reviewing the staged version. What is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> best way to review this change?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we expect any changes to markdown files, beyond some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> metadata?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:45 AM Robert Bradshaw <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rober...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. It'll be great to better support more languages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at the PR and there seems to be no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provenance/history. E.g. all the content seems to be entirely 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than diffs from the old. (There also seems to be a huge 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> auto-generated js code as well.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. This makes it very hard to review. I also see a bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of deleted markdown files. Are they not getting migrated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:23 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aizha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are almost done migrating the Apache Beam website from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jekyll to Hugo. You can see the PR in [1], and we'd love to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback/comments on the PR. It includes  detailed guidelines on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing to the new Hugo-based website and adding 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translations to pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]. For those who are curious about adding new languages, we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a proof of concept in the next couple of days in this thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we want to move forward with the PR, I would like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask the community to hold off changes to the current Beam 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, until we are able to review and merge the PR. Is this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anyone missed my previous email with the background
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the website migration, you can find more context here [3].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aizhamal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11554
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/256b7042bf504b94f161ca03b388a2ba247918d9/website/CONTRIBUTE.md
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r7fa6d710c0a1959cce5108e460d71c306ce5756cf96af818b41cb7ca%40%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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