yup, jul is shitty but better than having 3rd party deps.

+1


LieGrue,
strub



----- Original Message -----
> From: Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
> To: "dev@bval.apache.org" <dev@bval.apache.org>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Logging API
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 19, 2012, Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>  +1
>> 
>>  regards,
>>  gerhard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  2012/3/19 Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>
>> 
>>>  Apparently the selection of slf4j might not suit everyone.  While I am
>>>  comfortable enough with its API (I prefer slf5j), it does cause us to
>>>  impose downstream dependencies on our users that aren't really
>>>  necessary.  As an implementation of an EE specification it would be
>>>  nice of us to impose dependencies, particularly ones that require a
>>>  degree of manual intervention like slf4j, on our users only when
>>>  absolutely necessary.  We have 233 .java files in src/main folders,
>>>  only 10 of which contain the String "slf4j" by which I guess 
> that we
>>>  are only logging a very small amount of information, in which case we
>>>  might consider ourselves better citizens to simply use jul for BVal
>>>  regardless of how we may feel about it in the context of implementing
>>>  applications.
>>> 
>>>  Thoughts?
>>> 
>>>  Matt
>>> 
>> 
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