On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've corresponded with Hadrian about this off list. > > Whilst I understand the sentiment, this policy certainly wasn't clear to me > or other PMC members. Whilst there are occasional links to external > information, mainly at FuseSource, these are historical and done in the > context of providing information to new users and developers whilst we > growing the Camel community, to be one of the most successful and widely used > projects at Apache today. This isn't unique to Apache Camel, its a > methodology we've successfully followed whilst initiating and growing > ActiveMQ, ServiceMix, Karaf and CXF - to get as much information into users > hands as early as possible, from whatever source that maybe. > Given where Camel is today, its absolutely right to have a level playing > ground - but what I would like to see is that this policy is clearly > understood by everyone - and not handled in off list conversations. > > I would like to propose that from now on all links to 3rd party distributions > or usages of Apache Camel in a 3rd party product are put into (but not > limited to) the following 4 categories: > > 1. support > 2. Articles > 3. Tutorials > 4. Tools > > And there is a grace period (till end of June 2011) to move links to > external information to one of these areas by the authors, else it they will > be deleted. >
What about FAQ? Thinking about it, it would make sense to be able to refer to 3rd party products or companies from a FAQ. For example we already do this by the - How does Camel compare to Mule. Where Mule is a product from MuleSoft. http://camel.apache.org/how-does-camel-compare-to-mule.html > Here's my +1 > > On 3 May 2011, at 16:52, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > >> No, there are things that are not up to the community to decide. I drew >> attention when some changes were made that that was a mistake and my >> impression was that the point was well taken. I also mentioned that if >> changes won't be removed by their authors I will. That was months ago. If >> anything, I can be blamed for not making these changes earlier. >> >> The Apache Camel project has a designated place to inform the users >> community of commercial offerings [1]. And there are also the articles [2] >> and tutorials [3] pages that can be used (within reason). Everything else a >> commercial organization has to say about offerings related to the Apache >> projects can be done on their site. >> >> I hope this clarifies it, >> Hadrian >> >> >> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Support >> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Articles >> [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Tutorials >> >> >> >> On May 3, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> This post is addressed to Hadrian who has been deleting and editing >>> web pages from Apache Camel (today), >>> which seems to be related to the fact those pages had information about >>> Fuse. >>> >>> I would like to call out that such actions should have been discussed >>> in the public at first and agreed upon by the community. >>> >>> Most of the information has been there for a long time and its related >>> and relevant for Apache Camel. >>> And of use for people who look into what Camel is. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Claus Ibsen >>> ----------------- >>> FuseSource >>> Email: cib...@fusesource.com >>> Web: http://fusesource.com >>> CamelOne 2011: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/ >>> Twitter: davsclaus >>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ >>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ >> > > -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- FuseSource Email: cib...@fusesource.com Web: http://fusesource.com CamelOne 2011: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/ Twitter: davsclaus Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
