Yeah, come to think of it, the FAQ area is a good place for these kind of common questions: how does Camel compare to Fuse MR, how does Camel compare to Talend IF, how does Camel compare to Mule, etc etc. +1 on keeping those FAQ entries from before.
As far as the getting started page goes, I don't see a reason to remove links to the dzone article or Camel in Action book because they are about pure Apache Camel. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've corresponded with Hadrian about this off list. > > > > Whilst I understand the sentiment, this policy certainly wasn't clear to > me or other PMC members. Whilst there are occasional links to external > information, mainly at FuseSource, these are historical and done in the > context of providing information to new users and developers whilst we > growing the Camel community, to be one of the most successful and widely > used projects at Apache today. This isn't unique to Apache Camel, its a > methodology we've successfully followed whilst initiating and growing > ActiveMQ, ServiceMix, Karaf and CXF - to get as much information into users > hands as early as possible, from whatever source that maybe. > > Given where Camel is today, its absolutely right to have a level playing > ground - but what I would like to see is that this policy is clearly > understood by everyone - and not handled in off list conversations. > > > > I would like to propose that from now on all links to 3rd party > distributions or usages of Apache Camel in a 3rd party product are put into > (but not limited to) the following 4 categories: > > > > 1. support > > 2. Articles > > 3. Tutorials > > 4. Tools > > > > And there is a grace period (till end of June 2011) to move links to > external information to one of these areas by the authors, else it they will > be deleted. > > > > What about FAQ? > > Thinking about it, it would make sense to be able to refer to 3rd > party products or companies from a FAQ. > For example we already do this by the - How does Camel compare to > Mule. Where Mule is a product from MuleSoft. > http://camel.apache.org/how-does-camel-compare-to-mule.html > > > > > Here's my +1 > > > > On 3 May 2011, at 16:52, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > > > >> No, there are things that are not up to the community to decide. I drew > attention when some changes were made that that was a mistake and my > impression was that the point was well taken. I also mentioned that if > changes won't be removed by their authors I will. That was months ago. If > anything, I can be blamed for not making these changes earlier. > >> > >> The Apache Camel project has a designated place to inform the users > community of commercial offerings [1]. And there are also the articles [2] > and tutorials [3] pages that can be used (within reason). Everything else a > commercial organization has to say about offerings related to the Apache > projects can be done on their site. > >> > >> I hope this clarifies it, > >> Hadrian > >> > >> > >> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Support > >> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Articles > >> [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Tutorials > >> > >> > >> > >> On May 3, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > >> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> This post is addressed to Hadrian who has been deleting and editing > >>> web pages from Apache Camel (today), > >>> which seems to be related to the fact those pages had information about > Fuse. > >>> > >>> I would like to call out that such actions should have been discussed > >>> in the public at first and agreed upon by the community. > >>> > >>> Most of the information has been there for a long time and its related > >>> and relevant for Apache Camel. > >>> And of use for people who look into what Camel is. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Claus Ibsen > >>> ----------------- > >>> FuseSource > >>> Email: cib...@fusesource.com > >>> Web: http://fusesource.com > >>> CamelOne 2011: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/ > >>> Twitter: davsclaus > >>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ > >>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > ----------------- > FuseSource > Email: cib...@fusesource.com > Web: http://fusesource.com > CamelOne 2011: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/ > Twitter: davsclaus > Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ > -- Cheers, Jon --------------- FuseSource Email: j...@fusesource.com Web: fusesource.com Twitter: jon_anstey Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen
