So I've created a new Zulip organization for testing purposes here: https://camel-test.zulipchat.com (I've named it camel-test as there's an option to import gitter chats but can be done only for new organization) Anyone should be able to join using github/gitlab/google, by mail or with an invitation.
I've also had some discussion with the Zulip team as well as other teams using Zulip and I can confirm that it is possible to request a standard plan for open source so we can get rid of the message history issue. --- Luca Burgazzoli On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote: > Never mind, found the answer in the second link you posted: > > https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/ > > “Free hosting at zulip.com. > The hosting is supported by (and is identical to) zulip.com’s commercial > offerings. This offer extends to any community involved in supporting free > and open source software: development projects, foundations, meetups, > hackathons, conference committees, and more. If you’re not sure whether > your organization qualifies, send us an email at supp...@zulip.com.” > > zoran > -- > Sent from mobile > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 11:18, Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Luca, > > are you referring to “Funds the Zulip open source project“? I read that > as “it provides funding to Zulip project”. > > > > zoran > > -- > > Sent from mobile > > > >> On 21. Aug 2020, at 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> --- > >> Luca Burgazzoli > >> > >> > >>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Cameleers, > >>> I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when there are > >>> a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC). > >>> > >>> I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an OpenSource plan > >>> on zulipchat.com[1] and I don't think it's good practice for an open > >>> source community to lose messages. Gitter offers unlimited history[2]. > >>> > >>> > >> It looks like that zulip cloud standard is free for open source projects > >> according to the FAQs https://zulipchat.com/plans or I'm reading it > wrong ? > >> > >> > >>> We could try to ask INFRA to provide a Zulip service Camel/ASF wide. > >>> > >>> zoran > >>> > >>> [1] https://zulipchat.com/plans/ > >>> [2] > https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202169471-Message-history > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM Luca Burgazzoli < > lburgazz...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on > the > >>>> various camel projects and overall the user experience was quite > >>> terrible > >>>> for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as example: > >>>> > >>>> - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus messages are > >>>> messing up > >>>> - messages are extremely slow to load and sometime the message you > sent > >>>> take quite long to be visible even on your end so you don't actually > know > >>>> what it is happening > >>>> - messages keep being marked as unread even if you did read them > >>>> - sometimes you need to close/reopen the thread sidebar to see new > >>> messages > >>>> for a given thread > >>>> > >>>> I don't know if it is only me but because of my frustration with the > tool > >>>> I'd like to know if anyone is interested in evaluating some > alternatives > >>>> (please note that we DON'T necessarily need to switch to something > >>>> different). > >>>> > >>>> I'd personally would like to suggest to try out Zulip ( > >>>> https://zulipchat.com/) as it allow us to have an independent > >>> organization ( > >>>> camel.zulipchat.com) and to login with github/gitter/google so you > can > >>>> easily join without having to fill gazillion of details but I know > it's > >>>> streams and topic way of organizing conversations may not be optimal > for > >>>> everyone. > >>>> > >>>> If anyone has suggestions, let discuss here. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> Luca Burgazzoli > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Zoran Regvart > >>> >
