Hi Thanks for the zulip testing experience.
+1 for zulip -1 for slack 0 for staying on gitter On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So I've created a new Zulip organization for testing purposes here: > https://camel-test.zulipchat.com (I've named it camel-test as there's an > option to import gitter chats but can be done only for new organization) > Anyone should be able to join using github/gitlab/google, by mail or with > an invitation. > > I've also had some discussion with the Zulip team as well as other teams > using Zulip and I can confirm that it is possible to request a standard > plan for open source so we can get rid of the message history issue. > > --- > Luca Burgazzoli > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote: > > > Never mind, found the answer in the second link you posted: > > > > https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/ > > > > “Free hosting at zulip.com. > > The hosting is supported by (and is identical to) zulip.com’s commercial > > offerings. This offer extends to any community involved in supporting free > > and open source software: development projects, foundations, meetups, > > hackathons, conference committees, and more. If you’re not sure whether > > your organization qualifies, send us an email at supp...@zulip.com.” > > > > zoran > > -- > > Sent from mobile > > > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 11:18, Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Luca, > > > are you referring to “Funds the Zulip open source project“? I read that > > as “it provides funding to Zulip project”. > > > > > > zoran > > > -- > > > Sent from mobile > > > > > >> On 21. Aug 2020, at 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> --- > > >> Luca Burgazzoli > > >> > > >> > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi Cameleers, > > >>> I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when there are > > >>> a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC). > > >>> > > >>> I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an OpenSource plan > > >>> on zulipchat.com[1] and I don't think it's good practice for an open > > >>> source community to lose messages. Gitter offers unlimited history[2]. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> It looks like that zulip cloud standard is free for open source projects > > >> according to the FAQs https://zulipchat.com/plans or I'm reading it > > wrong ? > > >> > > >> > > >>> We could try to ask INFRA to provide a Zulip service Camel/ASF wide. > > >>> > > >>> zoran > > >>> > > >>> [1] https://zulipchat.com/plans/ > > >>> [2] > > https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202169471-Message-history > > >>> > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM Luca Burgazzoli < > > lburgazz...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Hello, > > >>>> > > >>>> Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on > > the > > >>>> various camel projects and overall the user experience was quite > > >>> terrible > > >>>> for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as example: > > >>>> > > >>>> - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus messages are > > >>>> messing up > > >>>> - messages are extremely slow to load and sometime the message you > > sent > > >>>> take quite long to be visible even on your end so you don't actually > > know > > >>>> what it is happening > > >>>> - messages keep being marked as unread even if you did read them > > >>>> - sometimes you need to close/reopen the thread sidebar to see new > > >>> messages > > >>>> for a given thread > > >>>> > > >>>> I don't know if it is only me but because of my frustration with the > > tool > > >>>> I'd like to know if anyone is interested in evaluating some > > alternatives > > >>>> (please note that we DON'T necessarily need to switch to something > > >>>> different). > > >>>> > > >>>> I'd personally would like to suggest to try out Zulip ( > > >>>> https://zulipchat.com/) as it allow us to have an independent > > >>> organization ( > > >>>> camel.zulipchat.com) and to login with github/gitter/google so you > > can > > >>>> easily join without having to fill gazillion of details but I know > > it's > > >>>> streams and topic way of organizing conversations may not be optimal > > for > > >>>> everyone. > > >>>> > > >>>> If anyone has suggestions, let discuss here. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --- > > >>>> Luca Burgazzoli > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Zoran Regvart > > >>> > > -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
