Yes, go ahead please. Thanks.
Il giorno lun 31 ago 2020 alle ore 08:13 Luca Burgazzoli < lburgazz...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi, > > Should we start an official vote ? > > --- > Luca Burgazzoli > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:08 PM Omar Al-Safi <o...@oalsafi.com> wrote: > > > I'd also give my vote on this: > > > > +1 zulip > > -1 gitter > > 0 slack > > > > Regards > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:40 PM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Thanks for the zulip testing experience. > > > > > > +1 for zulip > > > -1 for slack > > > 0 for staying on gitter > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM Luca Burgazzoli < > lburgazz...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > So I've created a new Zulip organization for testing purposes here: > > > > https://camel-test.zulipchat.com (I've named it camel-test as > there's > > an > > > > option to import gitter chats but can be done only for new > > organization) > > > > Anyone should be able to join using github/gitlab/google, by mail or > > with > > > > an invitation. > > > > > > > > I've also had some discussion with the Zulip team as well as other > > teams > > > > using Zulip and I can confirm that it is possible to request a > standard > > > > plan for open source so we can get rid of the message history issue. > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Luca Burgazzoli > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Never mind, found the answer in the second link you posted: > > > > > > > > > > https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/ > > > > > > > > > > “Free hosting at zulip.com. > > > > > The hosting is supported by (and is identical to) zulip.com’s > > > commercial > > > > > offerings. This offer extends to any community involved in > supporting > > > free > > > > > and open source software: development projects, foundations, > meetups, > > > > > hackathons, conference committees, and more. If you’re not sure > > whether > > > > > your organization qualifies, send us an email at supp...@zulip.com. > ” > > > > > > > > > > zoran > > > > > -- > > > > > Sent from mobile > > > > > > > > > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 11:18, Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Luca, > > > > > > are you referring to “Funds the Zulip open source project“? I > read > > > that > > > > > as “it provides funding to Zulip project”. > > > > > > > > > > > > zoran > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sent from mobile > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 21. Aug 2020, at 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli < > lburgazz...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> --- > > > > > >> Luca Burgazzoli > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart < > > zo...@regvart.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Hi Cameleers, > > > > > >>> I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when > > there > > > are > > > > > >>> a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC). > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an > OpenSource > > > plan > > > > > >>> on zulipchat.com[1] and I don't think it's good practice for > an > > > open > > > > > >>> source community to lose messages. Gitter offers unlimited > > > history[2]. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> It looks like that zulip cloud standard is free for open source > > > projects > > > > > >> according to the FAQs https://zulipchat.com/plans or I'm > reading > > it > > > > > wrong ? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> We could try to ask INFRA to provide a Zulip service Camel/ASF > > > wide. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> zoran > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> [1] https://zulipchat.com/plans/ > > > > > >>> [2] > > > > > > > https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202169471-Message-history > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM Luca Burgazzoli < > > > > > lburgazz...@gmail.com> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Hello, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on > > gitter > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > >>>> various camel projects and overall the user experience was > > quite > > > > > >>> terrible > > > > > >>>> for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as > example: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus > messages > > > are > > > > > >>>> messing up > > > > > >>>> - messages are extremely slow to load and sometime the message > > you > > > > > sent > > > > > >>>> take quite long to be visible even on your end so you don't > > > actually > > > > > know > > > > > >>>> what it is happening > > > > > >>>> - messages keep being marked as unread even if you did read > them > > > > > >>>> - sometimes you need to close/reopen the thread sidebar to see > > new > > > > > >>> messages > > > > > >>>> for a given thread > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I don't know if it is only me but because of my frustration > with > > > the > > > > > tool > > > > > >>>> I'd like to know if anyone is interested in evaluating some > > > > > alternatives > > > > > >>>> (please note that we DON'T necessarily need to switch to > > something > > > > > >>>> different). > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I'd personally would like to suggest to try out Zulip ( > > > > > >>>> https://zulipchat.com/) as it allow us to have an independent > > > > > >>> organization ( > > > > > >>>> camel.zulipchat.com) and to login with github/gitter/google > so > > > you > > > > > can > > > > > >>>> easily join without having to fill gazillion of details but I > > know > > > > > it's > > > > > >>>> streams and topic way of organizing conversations may not be > > > optimal > > > > > for > > > > > >>>> everyone. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> If anyone has suggestions, let discuss here. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> --- > > > > > >>>> Luca Burgazzoli > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > >>> Zoran Regvart > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Claus Ibsen > > > ----------------- > > > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > > > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2 > > > > > >
