On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:07:18 +0200, Ugo Cei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Il giorno 14/ott/04, alle 11:08, Luca Garulli ha scritto: > > > Sorry but I didn't want to start a flame.. > > I don't see any flamewar starting ;-) > > > If you use JDBC you had to develop the Object/Relational mapping for > > your "persistent classes" !!! Let's use JDO and you don't worry about > > OR mapping. Dot. > > I agree with the fact that it's better not to use JDBC directly. My GT > presentation even had a slide (borrowed from Rod Johnson) whose title > was "Why you should never use raw JDBC directly". And I couldn't agree > more with the fact that it's *never* a good idea to develop your own > O/R framework in-house.
Uao! At least one point in common :-D Do you know that Rod Johnson is part (with me) of JSR 243 alias JDO 2.0? > On the other hand, I use and recommend Hibernate, but I would never > suggest that everyone start using Hibernate now and disregard all the > other alternatives. Ok, using Hibernate is a good starting point. > WRT "standards", if a standard is what you want, why not use entity > EJBs for persistence? That predates JDO and is much more "standard" > than JDO. I am not sure if there's anyone around who still thinks > entity beans are a good persistence mechanism ;-) 100% agreed. A standard became a "real and useful standard" when the people start to using it. I think that some people of this newsletter don't know enough JDO. JDO has all the features of Hibernate, plus interesting features such as: - one standard, many implementations! You can love one of these or to hate another one. Just change it ;-) - advanced and configurable fetching mechanisms - speed: many impl. doesn't use reflection! > Anyway, I think this was an interesting thread. No annoyance on my > part, really. Ok, I'm happy :-D > Ugo > > -- > Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/ bye, Luca Garulli OrienTechnologies.com (the light ODBMS, all in one JDO solution)