The app currently says for OODT: ---------- cut here ---------- ## PMC changes:
- Currently 42 PMC members. - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months - Last PMC addition was Dana Freeborn at Fri Mar 27 2015 - Currently 44 committers and 43 PMC members. - Radu Manole was added to the PMC on Sun Oct 11 2015 - Radu Manole was added as a committer on Tue Oct 06 2015 ---------- cut here ---------- Note that there are either 42 or 43 PMC members. (*) I think the above is a lot more confusing than the previous version which was: ---------- cut here ---------- ## PMC changes: - Currently 42 PMC members. - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months - Last PMC addition was Dana Freeborn at Fri Mar 27 2015 ## LDAP changes: - Currently 44 committers and 43 committee group members. - Radu Manole was added to the committee group on Sun Oct 11 2015 - Radu Manole was added as a committer on Tue Oct 06 2015 ---------- cut here ---------- As I already wrote, there is now no reason for the LDAP committee changes to be listed in the board report. So what I propose is: ---------- cut here ---------- ## PMC changes: - Currently 42 PMC members listed in committee-info.txt. - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months - Last PMC addition was Dana Freeborn at Fri Mar 27 2015 ## LDAP unix group changes: - Currently 44 members - Radu Manole was added on Tue Oct 06 2015 ---------- cut here ---------- Would that satisfy everyone? (*) that is because Radu has not yet been added to committee-info.txt so is not yet officially a member of the PMC On 18 October 2015 at 10:12, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 18 October 2015 at 09:31, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: >> from my understanding: >> - PMC composition is available in 2 forms: committee-info.txt (= golden >> source) and LDAP xxx-pmc group > > The *only* record of current PMC membership is committee-info.txt. > > The LDAP committee group (modify_committee.pl) is only used for > granting karma, e.g. to PMC-private SVN and dist/release. > > They should generally have the same members, since all (and perhaps > only) PMC members should have the karma. > > However this is not always the case, and it's important not to confuse the > two. > >> - committers list is available only in LDAP as xxx group > > The LDAP unix group (modify_unix_group.pl) generally grants karma to SVN. > However not every PMC uses it - e.g. Commons and Subversion allow any > ASF committer to commit. > >> >> then instead of displaying: >> * PMC from committee-info >> * LDAP info: PMC + committers >> >> it would be easier to understand if the structure was more: >> * PMC info from committee-info (and warning if LDAP PMC info is not >> consistent) > > The consistency check is already done by Whimsy, but I suppose it > could be repeated here. > Or the Whimsy page could be linked if there was a discrepancy. > >> * committers info (no need to explain that it comes from LDAP) >> >> WDYT? > > That is basically what it did say before the recent change. > > Except that I do think it's necessary to explain that the committer > (modify_unix_group.pl) info is just an LDAP group. > > There is no direct relationship with committers on a project in general. > Commons and Subversion don't use the group for commit karma. > Also it's relatively rare that people are dropped from the unix group, > even if they have stopped contributing. > So the group does not have any bearing on the current committer base. > > Additions to the unix group generally are associated with new > committers, so that is probably worth reporting. > >> Hervé >> >> Le vendredi 16 octobre 2015 23:24:16 sebb a écrit : >>> On 16 October 2015 at 21:08, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > I feel confident that anybody objects to ambiguous information, and that >>> > no >>> > one will object to improvement. >>> >>> I do object to conflating LDAP committee and PMC membership. >>> The two are completely distinct (although related). >>> >>> This is why I changed the text to show LDAP committee rather than PMC >>> a while back. >>> At the time, the tool did not analyse the actual PMC membership, only LDAP. >>> >>> However it does now, so the output shows them as distinct items. >>> >>> The LDAP committee information is not really relevant to the board, so >>> could now be dropped from the report skeleton. >>> >>> But I think it is completely wrong to imply that changes to the LDAP >>> committee group have any bearing on PMC membership. >>> >>> > Best regards, >>> > >>> > Pierre Smits >>> > >>> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* >>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>> > >>> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: >>> >> Although I acknowledge that the LDAP membership and the project >>> >> membership >>> >> might be different in certain weird edge cases, for the purpose of >>> >> actually >>> >> generating a board report, I find the current formatting confuses me >>> >> Every >>> >> Single Time. >>> >> >>> >> Viz: >>> >> >>> >> ## PMC changes: >>> >> - Currently 10 PMC members. >>> >> - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months >>> >> - Last PMC addition was Jean-Fran=C3=A7ois Maury at Mon Apr 07 2014 >>> >> >>> >> ## LDAP changes: >>> >> - Currently 26 committers and 10 committee group members. >>> >> - No new committee group members added in the last 3 months >>> >> - No new committers added in the last 3 months >>> >> - Last committer addition was Lyor Goldstein at Thu Apr 30 2015 >>> >> >>> >> So, I can tease out of that there's 26 committers, and 10 PMC members, >>> >> and >>> >> the latest additions were Jean Francois on April 7, and Lyor on April 30. >>> >> The rest of that phrasing is confusing to me. committee vs committer and >>> >> LDAP vs ... whatever. Not sure. >>> >> >>> >> Does anybody object to me reformatting this a little, so that it won't >>> >> confuse me next month? >>> >> >>> >> --Rich >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen >>> >> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >>
