Hi Joe,

Don't worry for the delay, I know what it is.

Thanks for your time and for all your suggestions !

Best

Etienne

Le 22/03/2022 à 17:13, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
Hey all,

I've taken a pass at editing this and it's almost ready to go. Sorry for the delay, just got buried in my inbox.

Best,

jzb

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:27 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote:

    Thank you, Etienne.

    Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience.

    Best,
    Sally

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    The Apache Software Foundation

    Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org>


    On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote:

    Hi Sally,

    Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone who can
    review my article and post it on Success at Apache blog ?

    Thanks

    Best

    Etienne

    Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the article
    draft you wanted that I sent last week ?

    Best

    Etienne

    Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if you need
    to discuss the content of this article.

    When the content looks good to you, we will publish on the
    Success at Apache blog and then I'll link to my personal blog.

    Best

    Etienne

    Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please review it and
    tell me if I can post it in "Success at Apache" and in my
    personnal blog also (through a link to the ASF) .

    Best

    Etienne

    title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect society ?*


    🕥 7 min.


        Introducion

    I have been working in software engineering for more than 15
    years. I've always contributed to Open Source software as a
    user or a coder. But I've been contributing toASF
    
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    such asApache Flink
    
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    Beam
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>orApache
    Spark
    
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 for
    nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I
    find*the Apache Way* is almost the best way to collaborate on
    software engineering.

    I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a lot of
    good content about that already. I will rather link tothe
    official Apache documentation
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.
    I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't know it
    already.

    My point here is to describe the consequences of the Apache
    Way as I see them. Of course, every Apache community is
    different, but what I wanted to emphasize is that applying the
    Apache Way by the book could lead to what I'd call a "perfect
    society" even if this word seems a bit naive and over
    optimistic or even utopian.


        A perfect society


    /Actually, working with the Apache way was a revelation to me !/

    The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source Communities
    behave like a sort of perfect society:

    The community is governed by merit: everything is about what
    you do inside the community and at some point your efforts are
    noted and you get credit for your work by obtaining more
    rights (direct access to the project repositories, election
    ofcommitters
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>etc..).
    Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions and voting
    for the best one leads to the best possible state of the
    project in the end. The best idea always wins in the long term.

        The software is not driven by money: no private concerns
    should take over. When the incubation process is well
    advanced, before graduation, theASF bord
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>makes
    sure that the aspiring community is well developed (users and
    developers communities are big enough), healthy and also not
    owned by a single company and its private financial
    considerations. This ensures best decisions for the software
    itself but also a long term maintenance of the software.

    It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is considered
    equal no matter your personal background, your education,
    ethnic or nationality, every contribution is good to take.
    Community members recognize that people skills may be
    different and complementary to theirs. So contributions might
    come from anyone, from anywhere and in any form (blog post,
    documentation, talk, code, website...)

    Communities are welcoming: they always search for new talents
    to join their forces. Be welcoming is always very important to
    build and grow a community. The Open Source community is also
    a great place for people to grow. The way people collaborate
    is generally by mentoring. Experienced contributors help new
    comers or experts share their thoughts with others. It is
    really also a good way for mentors to share their passion and
    inspire mentorees. Mentoring is even in the DNA of the ASF
    starting withthe incubator
    
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 when
    the podling community profits from the experience and advice
    of a mentor to grow in the Apache Way and become atop level
    project
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.


        Communities are self-organised: there is no manager but
    only technical leaders and mentors. People are self-motivated
    and I must say that it is the best form of motivation ever!
    Decision making is both simple and efficient: there is no
    solely decision, feedback is always very important. People are
    willing to share their thoughts and solve the problems together.

    Community members are always benevolent: they are always
    willing to share their thoughts, review PRs, share advice,
    accept change requests or bug tickets. People are wiling to
    accept criticism without being defensive. The master word is
    transparency.

        Last but not least, people behave friendly: public
    communication (one of the ASF master words is "what did not
    happen publicly never happened") forces people to communicate
    in a positive way: for example by asking questions or
    suggesting rather than affirming or asking for thoughts rather
    than disagreeing bluntly. An Open Source contributor always
    tries to put himself in the other person's shoes, trying to
    not hurt his feelings and to not demotivate him.

    => Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it is the
    way we all would like people and society in
    general to behave, no ?


        Daily life


    The funny thing is that it goes even further, after some years
    of applying this philosophy (I was told lately that it felt
    almost like a religion 😄) at work on a full time basis, you
    start applying it to daily life outside of work. It becomes
    your standard way of behaving in society: meritocracy becomes
    a second nature, for example you reward your home builders
    with gifts and public credit because they did a good job, you
    reward your kids for good school work etc... You also start to
    give time to others and share your knowledge, mentoring
    becomes a second nature.Another big thing which is very
    visible is that you now always take good care to give positive
    communication, leading to positive and constructive thinking.
    Positivism also becomes a second nature.

        On a professional basis, an important thing is that merit
    never expires. So, if you gain committership on a project, or
    become aPMC member
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>or
    even anASF member
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>,
    it is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your pairs
    for your whole career. This is an incredible credit and a
    tremendous trust mark !


        Can be a bit challenging


    In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I need to
    temper a bit:

    I remember when I first joined an Open Source community, I
    felt intimidated. Community members are generally very senior
    level and very high skilled developers. But, remember what is
    written above: every contribution is good to take. And, with
    time and mentoring, everyone deserves his place inside the
    community.

        The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I joined is to
    find where to start: some projects are old enough to have a
    large community so the amount of code is pretty high. But here
    again mentoring comes into play: mentors can give you pointers
    on hot topics, starter tickets or simply areas that need
    maintenance. And within time, you'll be recognized as an
    expert in a given area and the exciting subjects will come to
    you. And if you feel like you want to join a smaller community
    try joining a project which is still in the incubator
    
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 phase
    !


        Conclusion


    I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave you the
    envy to join a Open Source community.




    Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Thanks for your answer and your views !

    Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before publishing. Then,
    after review, we could publish to the ASF blog in "Success at
    Apache" and I can definitely link to the ASF blog post in my
    personal blog so that there is only one publishing place.

    Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new comers
    to be informed, but I totally agree, it would be redundant.
    So I propose that we just link an article about the Apache
    Way at the beginning of my article. Do you have a good link
    to send me ?

    I'll then describe my experience in the continuation of the
    article, that was indeed the whole point of the article !

    WDYT ?

    Thanks.

    Etienne.

    Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
    Hi Etienne,

    Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the first
    go-around.

    Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site? Ideally
    we'd post in one place. If not we can always promote it on
    Twitter and LinkedIn.

    From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from
    describing "The Apache Way" and focus on your experience
    instead. The Apache Way has been covered, at length,
    already. I'd focus on what your success looks like.

    Describing how The Apache Way has informed your success
    would be great.

    Thanks!

    jzb

    On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot
    <echauc...@apache.org> wrote:

        Hi Bertrand!

        Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my personal blog
        post and send a
        link here.

        Best

        Etienne Chauchot

        Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
        > Hi Etienne,
        >
        > Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne Chauchot
        <echauc...@apache.org> a écrit :
        >> ...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start writing
        the blog post ? ...
        > I don't have decision power on what's published in
        "Success at Apache"
        > but I'd say go for it!
        >
        > An actual draft is IMO the best way to convince
        people, and if they're
        > not convinced there's lots of other places where you
        can post.
        >
        > -Bertrand



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