<div></div><div>On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 14:56 -0400, me wrote:
<br/>> This is more or less in line with what I think we’ve
anticipated. I
<br/>> really appreciate you providing the info.
<br/>>
<br/>> That said… to outreach or not to outreach… that is the
question.
<br/>
<br/>So ... I have been staying out of this conversation rather
<br/>intentionally for a number of reasons, but I feel I must speak up here.
<br/>
<br/>YOU MUST NOT reach out to ANYONE on behalf of the Apache Software
<br/>Foundation without coordinating with M&P. Without their approval, you
<br/>are NOT authorized to speak on behalf of the ASF, or put yourself in a
<br/>position where it appears that you are doing so.
<br/>
<br/>
<br/>Please forgive if I am coming across stronger than warranted here, but
<br/>this is a line that you MUST NOT cross without the approval of M&P.
<br/>
<br/>Thanks.
<br/>
<br/>--Rich, with Board of Directors hat on.
<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<br/>> I’m going to try to remain impartial in order to facilitate.
(i.e.
<br/>> this isn’t my opinion, I’m just trying to help move
things forward).
<br/>>
<br/>> The scenario w/ Jeep is the most synonymous to Apache. (We are named
<br/>> for a tribe, rather than a synonymous term or epithet). I’m side
<br/>> stepping the logo for the moment.
<br/>>
<br/>> The last words I could find on the subject (w/ a brief scan) were
<br/>> March of 2021
<br/>>
<br/>> - Chief Hoskins of the Cherokee Nation did request a name change from
<br/>> Jeep.
<br/>> - Jeep opened up talks, but they didn’t comply.
<br/>>
<br/>>
<br/>>
<br/>>
<br/>> From: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
<br/>> Reply: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
<br/>> Date: May 9, 2022 at 09:52:47
<br/>> To: me <m...@emangini.com>
<br/>> Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org>
<br/>> Subject: Re: A way to keep the name
<br/>>
<br/>> On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me <m...@emangini.com>
wrote:
<br/>> >
<br/>> > Roman, welcome to the party!
<br/>>
<br/>> LOL! Thanks ;-)
<br/>>
<br/>> > I think the scope of the risk (in terms of “what”)
is fairly well
<br/>> > understood. Did you also estimate the probability of the risks?
<br/>> > (i.e. likelihood?)
<br/>>
<br/>> IIRC mostly the likelihood.
<br/>>
<br/>> > Do you mind sharing what the results were of the previous
<br/>> > assessment?
<br/>>
<br/>> It was deemed to be low: primarily based on our historic use of
the
<br/>> name (we have been pretty respectful with it) and the fact that
<br/>> whoever brings the lawsuit will have to have a standing.
<br/>>
<br/>> Thanks,
<br/>> Roman.
<br/>
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