On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > There is one other aspect of the chair which, for a somewhat > newish PMC is important: The entire PMC is responsible for > ensuring that the project is run in a way which abides by, > and embraces, the "Apache Way"... when it doesn't, the > Chair needs to (1) know that the PMC is going awry and > (2) encourage the PMC to fix those problems and (3) > interact w/ the board if the PMC needs help in doing so. >
So, who is to protect the PMC from yourself and rest of the board trying to destroy the project with insults and vitriol? While I believe that Shazron is up to the task, I'm convinced that "The Apache Way" is the worst way to run a software project, and that the Apache Board spends all their time trying to find ways to debate itself into irrelevancy. I wish that we never joined the ASF, and honestly when you told us that we should leave months ago, I welcomed it. That being said, we're still here, despite your best efforts. We've seen what happens when the board tries to help, and it generally pisses a bunch of committers off, and ends up with people insulting each other personally. This response to your first e-mail on this list should not come as any surprise. The fact is that Shaz fits well, because unlike me, he is diplomatic and won't tell you to jump off a cliff every time you or any other Apache person comes in and tries to interfere with our project. > Not knowing Shaz personally, how does that all fit in > with the nomination? > > On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >> Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the >> Cordova PMC. >> >> The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book >> keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal >> incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight >> approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an >> email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on >> http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day >> there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. >> >> In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping >> responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not >> fair to Cordova. >> >> I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate >> Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since >> before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts >> directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on >> Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. >> >> I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more >> code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there >> is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. >> Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week. >
