I attempted to capture the discussion and consensus in this JIRA item: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-7231
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Jan Velecký <vve...@seznam.cz> wrote: > So, can we put task into JIRA related to this problem? Point one for start? > > > ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- > Od: Jan Velecký <vve...@seznam.cz> > Komu: dev@cordova.apache.org > Datum: 26. 7. 2014 9:12:03 > Předmět: Re: New project <PATH> vs. <NAME> > > "1. Agree, this is essential I think. > 2. Agree. > 3. Agree, but it can be more likely like so: > name=FolderCordova, project=FolderCordova, id=io.cordovahellocordova > 4. Agree, but this CLI does already, doesn't it? > > > ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- > Od: Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> > Komu: dev@cordova.apache.org <dev@cordova.apache.org> > Datum: 25. 7. 2014 21:58:17 > Předmět: Re: New project <PATH> vs. <NAME> > > "Jan sorry, I think I made a mistake on #3, I think overall what you > suggested, is what we both agree an app name and project name, can be > configure and specify. > > But I want to look how we do the refactoring of the project for xcode, > right now is not very reliable, we can leave it there how it is today, and > just recommend that user don't change the project name in config.xml just > the app name > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Let's see if I understood your feedback Jan: > > > > 1. Do you agree that it is a good idea to treat them as two independent > > things, the App name and the Project Name? > > 2. Do you agree that user should be able to to run "cordova create" and > > provide AppName and ProjectName? (i.e. cordova create --id > com.example.foo > > --cordovaPath Folder --appName FooApp --projectName FooProject, ignore > the > > specifics in the arguments but just having the flexibility to specify > more > > granular things) > > 3. Do you agree that should not be required to provide all the > parameters, > > that we can pick default values (cordova create FolderCordova, will set > > name=FolderCordova, project=CordovaApp id=io.cordovahellocordova) > > 4. Do you agree that if user wants to change the name only the name of > the > > App without changing the Project Files it should be able to do it by > > changing a string in config.xml and running "cordova build"? > > > > All this things is what I agree. > > > > 1. What I'm proposing is that we start splitting in two to indepent > things > > 2. That we stay away of refactoring/modifying specifically for Xcode > > project and related files after creation (I'm ok if other platforms want > to > > supported) > > > > I'm OK if we just start by agreeing and doing #1 above. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Jan Velecký <vve...@seznam.cz> wrote: > > > >> So, then we will have dozen CordovaApp projects with different > application > >> name? Not, that is not good. There is project name (for Android) in > >> .project > >> and build.xml files, and this names must be safe (As far as I know), but > >> CordovaApp? Noo... For this reason we simply need two names. > >> > >> And the most quality solution is two names in config.xml – application > >> name > >> and project name. It can be done for backward compability: > >> <name for="proj">CordovaApp</name> > >> <name for="app">Cordova App</name> > >> And then add parameter to create script and change it to > <proj-name>[<app > - > >> name> ]. > >> Simply app-name and proj-name make same if app-name omitted. > >> > >> Sorry, e-mail provider ate tags, hope now it will be sended correct. > >> > >> > >> ---------- Původní zpráva ---------- > >> Od: Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> > >> Komu: dev@cordova.apache.org <dev@cordova.apache.org> > >> Datum: 25. 7. 2014 15:12:09 > >> Předmět: Re: New project <PATH> vs. <NAME> > >> > >> "I can speak for iOS. > >> > >> The way it works today from [1] [2]. > >> > >> The App Name on the Home Screen (i.e. Product name Foo) and the XCode > >> Project Name (i.e. Foo.pbxproj, Foo-Info.plist, Foo-Prefix.pch) Foo are > >> too > >> tight couple and causing problems. > >> > >> I think we should split this in to separate concerns, and name in > cordova > >> create or config.xml ONLY change the Product Name and NOT try to > refactor > >> the Xcode project files which is the part that is causing problems. > >> > >> I think 80% of time people just want to change/set the App Name, and > would > >> be fine if the Xcode project name and files don't change and have a > >> deafult > >> value of "CordovaApp" Xcode project that creates an App with name "Foo" > >> > >> Let me know what you think is this is a design you don't disagree, and I > >> can create a JIRA enhancement item. > >> > >> [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-ios/blob/master/bin/create#L105 > >> [2] > >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/blob/master/cordova-lib/src/ > cordova/ > >> metadata/ios_parser.js#L157 > >> <https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/blob/master/cordova-lib/src/ > cordova/metadata/ios_parser.js#L157> > >> [3] > >> https://github.com/alunny/node-xcode/blob/master/lib/pbxProject.js#L453 > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Chuck, thanks for finding the right JIRA issue already. I agree that > one > >> > should be addressed, and thats probably enough to address this report. > >> > > >> > Thanks Jan for bringing more attention to it! (and if you would like > to > >> > provided PR for fixing i.e. the documentation, please link to them > from > >> > here so they don't go unnoticed). > >> > > >> > -Michal > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Chuck Lantz <cla...@microsoft.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > The problem does seem to tie to platform implementations. > >> > > > >> > > On the Visual Studio side, we have been seeing issues with both > >> Android > >> > > and iOS failing to compile if the name of the app (<name></name> in > >> > > config.xml not the project) contains unicode characters. The reason > >> this > >> > is > >> > > special is it shows up on device home pages. For iOS this appeared > to > >> > > present because the app name is used for the underlying native > project > >> > > name. For Android, it looks like it's tied to a class name that is > >> > > generated. Another issue appears to stem from the fact that some of > >> the > >> > > build processes are using shell scripts which can mangle > international > >> > > characters if your system isn't setup with the right system locale - > >> > which > >> > > is what is driving CB-7129. However, even updating to the correct > >> system > >> > > locale doesn't fix Android or iOS. > >> > > > >> > > We've seen a surprising amount of international interest, so not > being > >> > > able to use a language appropriate app name seems like a pretty big > >> deal > >> > > particularly given there's base globalization plugin designed the > help > >> > with > >> > > these scenarios. Chinese is a big one that comes to mind. > >> > > > >> > > Here's the iOS bug in question: > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6992 > >> > > > >> > > -Chuck > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: Josh Soref [mailto:jso...@blackberry.com] > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:31 PM > >> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > >> > > Subject: Re: New project <PATH> vs. <NAME> > >> > > > >> > > Jan Velecký wrote: > >> > > >On Windows with Android, it "works". But make zkouka class and > class > >> > > >file, so it's confusing. I prefer project name separatedly... > >> > > >PS: From this (weird) žůžováÁpčina name makes ovpina, how cool... > :- > ) > >> > > > >> > > >on Mac (zkouška is test in czech), then add ios platform ends with > >> > error. > >> > > >It's because diacritics cannot be in project name. When I after > that > >> > > >change <name> to zkouska, adding ios platform finish successfully. > >> > > >Don't confuse project name and application name. > >> > > > >> > > On BlackBerry10 (cordova-blackberry), it just works <period> > >> > > > >> > > I get a nice running application with שלום in the list of running > >> apps, > >> > > and in the launcher. > >> > > > >> > > This to me seems more like a bug w/ cordova-ios and cordova-android > >> than > >> > a > >> > > thing that should be changed in how cordova-cli works. > >> > > > >> > > Of note, I did have one person who asked why we didn't name our .bar > >> > > (application packages) based on the app name. This is probably one > of > >> the > >> > > benefits we get from not doing that... > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Carlos Santana > >> <csantan...@gmail.com>" > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Santana > > <csantan...@gmail.com> > > > > > > -- > Carlos Santana > <csantan...@gmail.com>"" > -- Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>
