I will show my ignorance of email here...

When I receive the same email via a collection of mailing lists, my email
client (GMail) deduplicates them and shows me a single message. This is
actually a source of confusion when the lists have different levels of
privilege/privacy...

So if we do a first round to collect which lists PMCs approve and then send
a single email to all lists, will that not work? I truly do not know the
answer to this question.

I do think we should avoid direct-to-person emails.

Kenn

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:25 PM Austin Bennett <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Patricia,
>
> That seems a straight forward infra/other issue.  Naively, seems someone
> could iterate through all the relevant lists and then deduplicate emails
> (wouldn't catch all - in instance that you have different email addresses
> in different lists -- but probably would reduce lots of duplicate
> messaging).  Though, invites the question if direct messages might get
> caught by spam while messages to specific lists wouldn't.  I would be happy
> to do this for the sake of reducing email to many, should it be deemed the
> sensible solution and granted the needed access to do so.
>
> Cheers,
> Austin
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:10 PM Patricia Shanahan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > One danger that I don't know how to solve: In trying to reach as many
> > people as possible you will bombard many of us with multiple e-mails. I
> > am subscribed to [email protected], members@, committers@, two PMC
> > private lists, and the corresponding dev@lists. I'm going to get about 7
> > copies, and some people are subscribed to a lot more than 2 projects.
> >
> >
> > On 10/28/2019 3:49 PM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I'm back from my leave and ramping up on this project.
> > >
> > > First of all, I want to say THANK YOU Katia for stepping in and helping
> > > move the project forward with very little friction. To be a new
> > contributor
> > > to our community you have helped us achieve tremendous progress. Also
> > thank
> > > you Justin for supporting Katia and providing her with advice.
> > >
> > > I want to also thank everyone who has contributed with feedback,
> advice,
> > > revisions and support.
> > >
> > > I caught up with Katia and we decided on the following path forward:
> > > 1) Draft emails as per Sally's suggestions in this thread
> > > 2) Partner with Sally to send final message with survey to members@ &
> > > committers@
> > > 3) Promote survey in social media and other channels to capture
> > > non-committer participation (draft from ideas shared in this thread)
> > > 4) Run survey for 1 month after initial publication
> > >
> > > I will also be following up with the working group and Bitergia to
> catch
> > up
> > > with the rest of the project.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > G
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 14:47, Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Not sure if there was followup that makes this email obsolete. If so,
> > >> apologies.
> > >>
> > >> Both Justin & Shane have proposed ways for the survey to reach a wider
> > >> audience than committers@. I think both of their ideas avoid any
> > >> unsolicited email. I think expanded reach is very important. For the
> > >> survey* results I presented at ApacheCon NA, inclusion of
> non-committers
> > >> was key to many insights.
> > >>
> > >> What do you think of their ideas? Any other ideas?
> > >>
> > >> Kenn
> > >>
> > >> *survey of people at Google who self-identified as using or
> > contributing to
> > >> ASF projects
> > >>
> > >
> >
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