2009/4/28 Chris Custine <ccust...@apache.org>:
> I'll do the wiki move in Confluence if I can get admin permissions in the
> Felix space.

Done

> I could also do some of the pom.xml refactoring (artifact and groupid,
> descriptions, etc) as long as it won't affect your blueprint service patch.
>
> Chris
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> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've only copy the smx kernel trunk into felix so far and was waiting
>> for the discussion to settle.
>> We need to address the following tasks:
>>  * package renaming (see discussion about blueprint, it might be
>> appropriate to wait a bit or use the branch instead)
>>  * move jira issues (i'm not an admin on FELIX jira instance, but if
>> I could be granted that, i could create a component and start moving
>> the issues).  I'm experimenting a bit with the CSV import to see if
>> that could help.  I guess the other solution is to recreate the
>> existing issues.
>>  * move web site.  I think this should be easy to move the pages into
>> FELIX using confluence, the next step is then to replace all
>> references from ServiceMix Kernel to Karaf
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 15:59, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org>
>> wrote:
>> > On 4/28/09 9:52 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Great ! Seems the discussion is over, so we should now think about
>> >> executing this plan.
>> >> Any volunteer ?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I thought you were already doing it! :-)
>> >
>> > -> richard
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 13:36, Guillaume Nodet<gno...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Ok, I'm not really convinced, but since it seems there is a lot of
>> >>> reluctance I think we should aim for:
>> >>>  * packages in org.apache.felix.karaf
>> >>>  * use existing FELIX infrastructure (mailing list, jira tracker,
>> >>> confluence space)
>> >>>
>> >>> I think we should start with the above and reconsider later if there is
>> a
>> >>> need.
>> >>> Is everyone satisfied with the above ?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:17, Karl Pauls<karlpa...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think we should start with the FELIX infra and then see whether we
>> >>>> need to create a new one when the need is there.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> About the package renaming, I'm in favour of going with
>> >>>> org.apache.felix.karaf just because it emphasizes that felix is not
>> >>>> about the framework. If we make an exception then this sends a strange
>> >>>> message IMO.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Karl
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Richard S. Hall<
>> he...@ungoverned.org>
>> >>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 4/27/09 6:07 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Yes, they do.  The definition of a subproject is imho just something
>> >>>>>> controlled by a given TLP.
>> >>>>>> The way its infrastructure is set up has nothing to do with that.  A
>> >>>>>> lot of TLP uses multiple JIRA and confluence spaces for different
>> >>>>>> reasons.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My point was, this subproject is apparently not going to be treated
>> >>>>> like any
>> >>>>> other Felix subproject.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ->  richard
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:03, Richard S. Hall<he...@ungoverned.org
>> >
>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 4/27/09 5:57 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> It seems the consensus for the code is to move it to
>> >>>>>>>>    https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/karaf
>> >>>>>>>> So i'll go ahead and move the servicemix kernel trunk there asap.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> We still need to settle the problems of:
>> >>>>>>>>    * package name: org.apache.karaf vs org.apache.felix.karaf
>> >>>>>>>>    * jira issue tracker: use FELIX or create a new KARAF one
>> >>>>>>>>    * web site: use FELIX or create a new KARAF one
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The package renaming to org.apache.karaf has raised a number of
>> >>>>>>>> concerns, mostly (correct me if i'm wrong) about the fact whether
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> would be frowned upong by the ASF or not.  Given the number of
>> >>>>>>>> subprojects that do that since a long time, I think the answer is
>> >>>>>>>> no.
>> >>>>>>>>  Now we need to decide if we want to do this or not.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> For the issue tracker and web site, I think this is somewhat
>> related
>> >>>>>>>> to the package renaming issue above, though the problem is a bit
>> >>>>>>>> different.  I'm really opened here, but if we choose to rename the
>> >>>>>>>> packages to org.apache.karaf, it think it would make more sense to
>> >>>>>>>> have dedicated JIRA and confluence spaces.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> And is this how other projects do it too?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> It seems this is a subproject in name only.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ->    richard
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:26, Guillaume Nodet<gno...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to start moving the ServiceMix Kernel code into Felix
>> now.
>> >>>>>>>>> Given the size of the code base, I think it would be better to
>> just
>> >>>>>>>>> move the tree into its own top level svn structure.
>> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to run the following command:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>    svn cp
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/servicemix/smx4/kernel
>> >>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/karaf
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Any objections in doing that ?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Next steps will include creating a JIRA project and moving all
>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> issues into it (with a KARAF id), then the confluence space.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>> >>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Karl Pauls
>> >>>> karlpa...@gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Guillaume Nodet
>> >>> ------------------------
>> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> >>> ------------------------
>> >>> Open Source SOA
>> >>> http://fusesource.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
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