I'll do the wiki move in Confluence if I can get admin permissions in the
Felix space.

I could also do some of the pom.xml refactoring (artifact and groupid,
descriptions, etc) as long as it won't affect your blueprint service patch.

Chris
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've only copy the smx kernel trunk into felix so far and was waiting
> for the discussion to settle.
> We need to address the following tasks:
>  * package renaming (see discussion about blueprint, it might be
> appropriate to wait a bit or use the branch instead)
>  * move jira issues (i'm not an admin on FELIX jira instance, but if
> I could be granted that, i could create a component and start moving
> the issues).  I'm experimenting a bit with the CSV import to see if
> that could help.  I guess the other solution is to recreate the
> existing issues.
>  * move web site.  I think this should be easy to move the pages into
> FELIX using confluence, the next step is then to replace all
> references from ServiceMix Kernel to Karaf
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 15:59, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org>
> wrote:
> > On 4/28/09 9:52 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >>
> >> Great ! Seems the discussion is over, so we should now think about
> >> executing this plan.
> >> Any volunteer ?
> >>
> >
> > I thought you were already doing it! :-)
> >
> > -> richard
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 13:36, Guillaume Nodet<gno...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Ok, I'm not really convinced, but since it seems there is a lot of
> >>> reluctance I think we should aim for:
> >>>  * packages in org.apache.felix.karaf
> >>>  * use existing FELIX infrastructure (mailing list, jira tracker,
> >>> confluence space)
> >>>
> >>> I think we should start with the above and reconsider later if there is
> a
> >>> need.
> >>> Is everyone satisfied with the above ?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:17, Karl Pauls<karlpa...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we should start with the FELIX infra and then see whether we
> >>>> need to create a new one when the need is there.
> >>>>
> >>>> About the package renaming, I'm in favour of going with
> >>>> org.apache.felix.karaf just because it emphasizes that felix is not
> >>>> about the framework. If we make an exception then this sends a strange
> >>>> message IMO.
> >>>>
> >>>> regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Karl
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Richard S. Hall<
> he...@ungoverned.org>
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/27/09 6:07 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, they do.  The definition of a subproject is imho just something
> >>>>>> controlled by a given TLP.
> >>>>>> The way its infrastructure is set up has nothing to do with that.  A
> >>>>>> lot of TLP uses multiple JIRA and confluence spaces for different
> >>>>>> reasons.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My point was, this subproject is apparently not going to be treated
> >>>>> like any
> >>>>> other Felix subproject.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ->  richard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:03, Richard S. Hall<he...@ungoverned.org
> >
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 4/27/09 5:57 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It seems the consensus for the code is to move it to
> >>>>>>>>    https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/karaf
> >>>>>>>> So i'll go ahead and move the servicemix kernel trunk there asap.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We still need to settle the problems of:
> >>>>>>>>    * package name: org.apache.karaf vs org.apache.felix.karaf
> >>>>>>>>    * jira issue tracker: use FELIX or create a new KARAF one
> >>>>>>>>    * web site: use FELIX or create a new KARAF one
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The package renaming to org.apache.karaf has raised a number of
> >>>>>>>> concerns, mostly (correct me if i'm wrong) about the fact whether
> >>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>> would be frowned upong by the ASF or not.  Given the number of
> >>>>>>>> subprojects that do that since a long time, I think the answer is
> >>>>>>>> no.
> >>>>>>>>  Now we need to decide if we want to do this or not.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For the issue tracker and web site, I think this is somewhat
> related
> >>>>>>>> to the package renaming issue above, though the problem is a bit
> >>>>>>>> different.  I'm really opened here, but if we choose to rename the
> >>>>>>>> packages to org.apache.karaf, it think it would make more sense to
> >>>>>>>> have dedicated JIRA and confluence spaces.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And is this how other projects do it too?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It seems this is a subproject in name only.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ->    richard
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:26, Guillaume Nodet<gno...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to start moving the ServiceMix Kernel code into Felix
> now.
> >>>>>>>>> Given the size of the code base, I think it would be better to
> just
> >>>>>>>>> move the tree into its own top level svn structure.
> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to run the following command:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>    svn cp
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/servicemix/smx4/kernel
> >>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/karaf
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any objections in doing that ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Next steps will include creating a JIRA project and moving all
> the
> >>>>>>>>> issues into it (with a KARAF id), then the confluence space.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------
> >>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
> >>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Karl Pauls
> >>>> karlpa...@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Guillaume Nodet
> >>> ------------------------
> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >>> ------------------------
> >>> Open Source SOA
> >>> http://fusesource.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>

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