On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 4:42 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.org> wrote:
> Hey Awasum , I am just trying to incentivise the developers and > contributors here. I know that committers are not paid. That's a good > thing, let's keep it that way. > > I am not hiring a developer plus we are on a different thread, I think we > are just discussing the idea of how we can improve the project in terms of > making the libs small and introducing some form of automation so that > developers can go ahead and develop and maybe a release is possible. > > Have you ever tried running the fineract CN ? Go ahead and run and perhaps > you will know how hard and cumbersome it is to run the project and even > extend also at the same time Some might have done it but they have not > contributed back ! > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINCN-25 > Now tell me since last 2 years did anyone out of the volunteer tried to > improve or upgrade the source code ? We tried at some level and found out > some issues coming up so we are here reporting them, have some patience and > please listen to them, nothing else > > You have highlighted valid tasks no doubt but again we are discussing > something else right now. > > Again you cannot decide for the community let community first discuss and > come to a resolve then we can say but sending such mails from the likes of > you does not go well with the community > > I request all that we are trying to communicate and discuss improvement in > Fineract CN at this thread > > BTW check Micahel email from last year, he clearly mentioned that it's > good to incentivise the developers and contributors after all the work is > going back. He also gave a boilerplate in his email on how to do that . > > Patience my friend ,Again dont jump on conclusion > > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:56 PM Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Saransh, >> >> The Fineract PMC or Committers do not pay anyone here to do development >> on the Fineract codebase. The PMC does not manage a budget for developing >> Fineract. We are all volunteers here and contribute as individuals not >> companies. >> >> If you want to hire a Developer to do work on Fineract, then you have to >> manage that outside of Fineract. Hire someone at your foundation and define >> their role and get them to fix issues if you like. But they have to fix >> issues which the community wants and needs. >> >> If you want to do any of the tasks which I highlighted in my >> earlier email then go ahead. If you want to rewrite Fineract CN or Fineract >> CN, then fork the project and call it a different name and take the >> discussion to another forum and leave the majority of people here who >> believe in Fineract CN to stay on. You can even create your own new Apache >> Project if that is what you want.. Apache Incubator is there to guide you. >> >> The community at this time does not want to change the language, >> framework or architecture of Fineract CN at this time. We want to test, >> improve and release what is already available. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 4:13 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.org> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't know what this email means. I am not asking you to enter in any >>> kind of business with me? It's a grant Myrle, I mean it's not a typical >>> business transaction. Grant from a non profit that could help developers >>> and contributors to work together nothing else ,I am not going to influence >>> anyone in any way. >>> >>> Actually zero trust protocol aka Blockchain does help in such >>> transactions by the way , the idea that we need to trust someone is already >>> flawed in many ways. >>> >>> I neve dismissed Sander; he raised an interesting point but I >>> highlighted why the point is no longer valid. >>> >>> Banking the unbanked by also a solution that the unbanked cannot manage >>> or use , that is what we are trying to solve. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 7:46 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> So much wrong here, I'm just gonna skip to the end. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 3:09 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok , understood we can put more fire power once we get this rolling, >>>>> but if you look at the work I asked was to develop the Proposal not actual >>>>> development, think that's a lot ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Saransh, I do not trust you, and won't be entering into a business >>>> relationship with you already for that reason. But even if I did, your >>>> management approach here is completely wrong: you are trying to replace >>>> intrinsic motivation to bank the unbanked, or build a software architecture >>>> I can believe in, or (equally valid) build a business that I can own. You >>>> are trying to replace that intrinsic motivation with extrinsic motivation >>>> of $1500 and <handwave> blockchain. (Which, given the way you dismissed >>>> Sander, you clearly don't understand either.) I shouldn't need to tell you >>>> that that is... unlikely to lead to your own success. The people here have >>>> earned more dignity than that. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Myrle >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks and regards, >>> >>> Saransh Sharma >>> Research Partner >>> >>> This mail is governed by Muellners® IT policy. >>> The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents >>> may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from >>> disclosure. 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