Hey Awasum , I am just trying to incentivise the developers and contributors here. I know that committers are not paid. That's a good thing, let's keep it that way.
I am not hiring a developer plus we are on a different thread, I think we are just discussing the idea of how we can improve the project in terms of making the libs small and introducing some form of automation so that developers can go ahead and develop and maybe a release is possible. Have you ever tried running the fineract CN ? Go ahead and run and perhaps you will know how hard and cumbersome it is to run the project and even extend also at the same time Some might have done it but they have not contributed back ! Now tell me since last 2 years did anyone out of the volunteer tried to improve or upgrade the source code ? We tried at some level and found out some issues coming up so we are here reporting them, have some patience and please listen to them, nothing else You have highlighted valid tasks no doubt but again we are discussing something else right now. Again you cannot decide for the community let community first discuss and come to a resolve then we can say but sending such mails from the likes of you does not go well with the community I request all that we are trying to communicate and discuss improvement in Fineract CN at this thread BTW check Micahel email from last year, he clearly mentioned that it's good to incentivise the developers and contributors after all the work is going back. He also gave a boilerplate in his email on how to do that . Patience my friend ,Again dont jump on conclusion On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:56 PM Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Saransh, > > The Fineract PMC or Committers do not pay anyone here to do development on > the Fineract codebase. The PMC does not manage a budget for developing > Fineract. We are all volunteers here and contribute as individuals not > companies. > > If you want to hire a Developer to do work on Fineract, then you have to > manage that outside of Fineract. Hire someone at your foundation and define > their role and get them to fix issues if you like. But they have to fix > issues which the community wants and needs. > > If you want to do any of the tasks which I highlighted in my earlier email > then go ahead. If you want to rewrite Fineract CN or Fineract CN, then fork > the project and call it a different name and take the discussion to another > forum and leave the majority of people here who believe in Fineract CN to > stay on. You can even create your own new Apache Project if that is what > you want.. Apache Incubator is there to guide you. > > The community at this time does not want to change the language, framework > or architecture of Fineract CN at this time. We want to test, improve and > release what is already available. > > > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 4:13 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.org> > wrote: > >> I don't know what this email means. I am not asking you to enter in any >> kind of business with me? It's a grant Myrle, I mean it's not a typical >> business transaction. Grant from a non profit that could help developers >> and contributors to work together nothing else ,I am not going to influence >> anyone in any way. >> >> Actually zero trust protocol aka Blockchain does help in such >> transactions by the way , the idea that we need to trust someone is already >> flawed in many ways. >> >> I neve dismissed Sander; he raised an interesting point but I highlighted >> why the point is no longer valid. >> >> Banking the unbanked by also a solution that the unbanked cannot manage >> or use , that is what we are trying to solve. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 7:46 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> So much wrong here, I'm just gonna skip to the end. >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 3:09 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok , understood we can put more fire power once we get this rolling, >>>> but if you look at the work I asked was to develop the Proposal not actual >>>> development, think that's a lot ? >>>> >>> >>> Saransh, I do not trust you, and won't be entering into a business >>> relationship with you already for that reason. But even if I did, your >>> management approach here is completely wrong: you are trying to replace >>> intrinsic motivation to bank the unbanked, or build a software architecture >>> I can believe in, or (equally valid) build a business that I can own. You >>> are trying to replace that intrinsic motivation with extrinsic motivation >>> of $1500 and <handwave> blockchain. (Which, given the way you dismissed >>> Sander, you clearly don't understand either.) I shouldn't need to tell you >>> that that is... unlikely to lead to your own success. The people here have >>> earned more dignity than that. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Myrle >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks and regards, >> >> Saransh Sharma >> Research Partner >> >> This mail is governed by Muellners® IT policy. >> The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents >> may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from >> disclosure. 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