On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 17:29 +0100, sebb wrote: > On 13/05/2010, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 16:49 +0100, sebb wrote: > > > On 13/05/2010, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 15:51 +0100, sebb wrote: > > > > > On 13/05/2010, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 10:41 +0100, sebb wrote: > > > > > > > On 13/05/2010, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 01:12 +0100, sebb wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 12/05/2010, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Please vote on releasing these packages as > > HttpComponents Client > > > > > > > > > > 4.1-alpha2. The vote is open for the next 72 hours, > > and only votes from > > > > > > > > > > HttpComponents PMC members are binding. The vote > > passes if at least > > > > > > > > > > three binding +1 votes are cast and there are more +1 > > than -1 votes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Packages: > > > > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~olegk/httpclient-4.1-alpha2/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you upload the Maven packages as well, so we > > can vote on those too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should be largely a formality if the main packages are > > OK, but they do > > > > > > > > > need to be voted on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian, we have been through that, haven't we? Only > > source package > > > > > > > > represents an official release artifact that needs to be > > voted on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Maven artifacts always include source files, either as > > source jars > > > > > > > (which should be provided), if not then at least pom.xml will > > be > > > > > > > included. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Binary artifacts are merely byproducts. If you want to > > verify they are > > > > > > > > ok, you should build them from source. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not strictly true either - binary artifacts need to be > > > > > > > inspected to ensure that the appropriate N&L files are present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-34 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which was never really resolved and anyway does not cover the point > > > > > about N&L at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precisely. Hen's statement boils down to a simple fact that there is no > > > > ASF wide policy on the matter and it is up to individual projects > > unless > > > > the Board rules otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My main problem is not with uploading a bunch of files, but > > the fact you > > > > > > > > are changing an established release process in the middle > > of a release > > > > > > > > without prior discussion and a consent from other > > committers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point is that the process is IMO not following the ASF > > standard, > > > > > > > and therefore needs to be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no ASF standard. It is up to individual projects. Please > > see > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-34 > > > > > > > > > > Not really relevant as source releases must be approved by the PMC. > > > > > The Maven artefacts include source, and therefore must be voted on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there an official statement to that effect by the Board I could have > > > > a look at? > > > > > > > > > > No idea. > > > > > > But I hope it's agreed that source releases must be voted on by the PMC. > > > Maven includes source, and is a release. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless of the JIRA issue, I think the consumers of ASF releases > > > > > have a right to expect that the archives etc have been formally > > > > > approved as part of the "quality control" applied by the ASF > > > > > organisation. > > > > > > > > > > Why not just publish the Maven artefacts so we can include them in > > the vote? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How exactly do you suggest that I do that, as the artifacts are > > > > generated by Maven from source at deployment time? > > > > > > This is actually quite easy, see > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-55 > > > > > > > Besides, the release process is already is painful enough. I see no > > good > > > > reason for making it even more painful due to some completely > > arbitrary > > > > requirement. > > > > > > It's not arbitrary. > > > > > > > > > I am sorry, Sebastian, but per comment from legal unless the Board makes > > a clear statement, it is just arbitrary > > Source releases still require PMC votes. >
Sure, that is why there are source packages (zip and tarball). Oleg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@hc.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@hc.apache.org
