On 2 February 2018 at 17:41, Oleg Kalnichevski <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 17:05 +0000, sebb wrote:
>> On 2 February 2018 at 13:33, Oleg Kalnichevski <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 20:18 +0000, sebb wrote:
>> > > It may not be pretty, but I find it legible and generally easy to
>> > > navigate so I hope those attributes won't be lost.
>> > >
>> > > Also, it's important not to break any links.
>> > >
>> >
>> > It is also important to eat healthy, be polite and stay away from
>> > those
>> > girls.
>> >
>> > I am sorry, Sebastian, but links are likely to get broken and some
>>
>> It's not necessary to change the site design.
>> Nor is it necessary to drop Maven.
>>
>
> Of course not, as long as some other poor sucker has to maintain that
> site.
>
>> I think links are a lot more more important than looks.
>>
>
> This is not so much about the look of the site being terrible (which is
> a consequence, not a cause) but about the way the site gets generated
> is terrible.

In what way is it terrible?
And does that have anything to do with Markdown?

> Have you ever wondered why there has been literally not a single
> contribution to our web site from an external contributor?
>
> Have you ever wondered why there have been only two substantial
> contributions to our documentation in the past 10 years? I suspect the
> reason is the same.

There are lots of reasons why people don't contribute documentation.

> Oleg
>
>
>
>
>> > Maven generated reports are not going to be there anymore. If some
>> > people feel strongly about it, they are welcome to help fixing them
>> > and
>> > provide missing content.
>> >
>> > Oleg
>> >
>> >
>> > > If the site is no longer built using Maven, then it may be
>> > > difficult
>> > > to preserve all the links (e.g. project info page links).
>> > >
>> > > It appears to be possible to use Markdown with Maven:
>> > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14829190/how-to-use-markdown-
>> > > for-
>> > > maven-project-site
>> > >
>> > > Ideally anchors (internal page links) will also be maintained as
>> > > far
>> > > as possible.
>> > >
>> > > S.
>> > >
>> > > On 31 January 2018 at 19:15, Gary Gregory <[email protected]
>> > > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski <olegk@apach
>> > > > e.or
>> > > > g> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 07:43 -0700, Gary Gregory wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:06 AM, Oleg Kalnichevski <olegk@a
>> > > > > > pach
>> > > > > > e.org>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Granted the site is not the most attractive, the only time
>> > > > > > I
>> > > > > > want to
>> > > > > > dedicate to this topic is to discuss it here. I do not care
>> > > > > > about
>> > > > > > which
>> > > > > > tools we use to get us to a new site. For my money, I'd
>> > > > > > simply
>> > > > > > try to
>> > > > > > improved what we have now we a different stylesheet
>> > > > > > (Fluido?).
>> > > > > > For
>> > > > > > example,
>> > > > > > this is fine with me:
>> > > > > > https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/architecture.ht
>> > > > > > ml
>> > > > > > and
>> > > > > > it's all
>> > > > > > Maven.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I understand that but you opinion might rapidly change once
>> > > > > you
>> > > > > actually need to author a substantial amount of content with
>> > > > > xdoc
>> > > > > or
>> > > > > apt.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Bah, it's just one format vs. another, it just depends on how
>> > > > much
>> > > > control
>> > > > you want.
>> > > >
>> > > > For
>> > > > https://www.manning.com/books/java-persistence-with-hibernate-s
>> > > > econ
>> > > > d-edition,
>> > > > we wrote it all in XHTML.
>> > > >
>> > > > Gary
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Oleg
>> > > > >
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