I'm willing to try Maven.

There would be no harm in Brandon creating the full Maven build that
does everything the existing build does (tests, coverage, reports,
versioning, manifest, deployable ZIP, release.txt update etc).
There's nothing in the current build that isn't used, so Maven would
have to do exactly the same thing or something equivalent or better
for it to be a suitable replacement.  At that point we could cut over
to Maven.

If Maven can do everything easier, faster, cleaner better, or for some
benefit....I would be willing to be completely wrong.  I'll post my
wrong-ness to this list publicly and send Brandon a cake.  :-)

Clinton


On 2/13/07, Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
HATE COMMENTS?!? Goodin, I'll kick your fat butt! :-D

On 2/13/07, Clinton Begin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I think there is a bit of hostility here.
>
> I don't sense any hostility...just strong opinions.

Agreed, I'll make no more butt-kicking comments...today. Except via
IM. Unless provoked.

 :-)

>
> >>  If you don't have an internet connection then you are in a sad sad sad 
state
>
> Except for those who like to work with or on our framework while on an
> airplane...or a bus or a train....laptops are great things.
> Unfortunately wireless networks are not yet ubiquitous.  Not everyone
> works from home.  :-)

That really only applies if they have never built the project (or
other projects that share our dependencies) - if they have, they
already have all the dependencies, and "mvn -o" makes life good again.

> >> I believe that self contained build are overrated as well.
>
> Completely disagree.  When I can't build it with one click, I generally toss 
it.
>

Dang, you are lazy. ;-)

I agree with Brandon on this - maven is a 1M download, I don't think
it's too much to ask. I guess we could bundle it with iBATIS like we
bundle ant, but IMO, that is messier, because maven is a bit more
involved than ant is.

> >> all the unnecessary anger
>
> There's no anger man.  Just constructive debate.  I hope we never
> start to sound like those chipmunks on the Bugs Bunny show...."No no
> no...you're the wonderful one."  :-)

Group hug? Nah, I still wanna kick Brandon. Doh! I take that back.

Larry

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