I have updated the KIP.

Best,
David

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:00 PM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
> Thank you all for your feedback. Let me address all your points below.
>
> Luke,
> 1. I use a tag field so bumping the request version is not necessary. In
> this case, using a tag field does not seem to be the best approach so
> I will use a regular one and bump the version.
> 2. Sounds good. I will fix that comment.
> 3. That is a good question. My intent was to avoid getting weird or cryptic
> reasons logged on the broker so I thought that having a standard one is
> better. As Sophie suggested something similar for the `enforceRebalance`
> API, we could do it for both, I suppose.
>
> Ismael,
> 1. That's a good point. I chose to use a tag field to avoid having to bump
> the request version. In this particular case, it seems that bumping the
> version does not cost much so it is perhaps better. I will change this.
>
> Sophie,
> 1. That's a pretty good idea, thanks. Let me update the KIP to include
> a reason in the JoinGroup request. Regarding the Consumer API, do
> you think that there is value for KStreams to expose the possibility to
> provide a reason? Otherwise, it might be better to use a default
> reason in this case.
> 2. I don't fully get your point about providing the reason to the group
> leader assignor on the client. Do you think that we should propagate
> it to all the consumers or to the leader as well? The user usually has
> access to all its client logs so I am not sure that it is really necessary.
> Could you elaborate?
>
> I will update the KIP soon.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 6:00 AM Sophie Blee-Goldman
> <sop...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > This sounds great, thanks David.
> >
> > One thought: what do you think about doing something similar for the
> > JoinGroup request?
> >
> > When you only have broker logs and not client logs, it's somewhere between
> > challenging and
> > impossible to determine the reason for a rebalance that was triggered
> > explicitly by the client or
> > even the user. For example, when a followup rebalance is requested to
> > assign the revoked
> > partitions after a cooperative rebalance. Or any of the many reasons we
> > trigger a rebalance
> > in Kafka Streams, via the #enforceRebalance API.
> >
> > Perhaps we could add a parameter to that method as such:
> >
> > public void enforceRebalance(final String reason);
> >
> > Then we can add that to the JoinGroup request/ConsumerProtocol. Not only
> > would it help to
> > log this reason on the broker side, the information about who requested the
> > rebalance and why
> > could be extremely useful to have available to the group leader/partition
> > assignor on the client
> > side.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sophie
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 10:05 AM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks David, this is a worthwhile improvement. Quick question, why did we
> > > pick a tagged field here?
> > >
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2021, 8:32 AM David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to discuss this very small KIP which proposes to add a reason
> > > > field
> > > > to the LeaveGroupRequest in order to let the broker know why a member
> > > > left the group. This would be really handy for administrators.
> > > >
> > > > KIP: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/eYyqCw
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > David
> > > >
> > >

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