On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:17, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> hmm, OK,
>
> does it really prevent us from actually fixing the version of JAXB in
> the jre property in conjunction with what Andreas just suggested?
> I'd really favor changing the jre properties (I actually did that on a
> project fixing my issues with jaxb this way) and providing functional
> features
> out of the box for JAXB since this is still a highly used framework of
> lots of developers. I really want this to work right away.
> I myself spent already to much time haunting those nightmares ;)
>

I'm completely with Achim here (had the same nightmares). Still, if it is
2.2 we're looking for and jdk6 comes with 2.1 using a (default) feature or a
default bundle might be the better solution?

Kind regards,
Andreas


>
> regards, Achim
>
> 2011/8/30 Andreas Pieber <anpie...@gmail.com>:
> > Although it is a little bit otherwise defined in the JRE we may be able
> to
> > provide features for those alternatives and completely remove them from
> the
> > jre.properties? I think this would help users a lot at various situations
> > and als remove some of the hacks from SMX :-)
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Andreas
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:37, Freeman Fang <freeman.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Not sure we should do it for JAXB(and also jaxws). As in most case the
> >> jaxb/jaxws api(as in JDK6 it use jaxws/jaxb 2.1 but in most case we need
> use
> >> 2.2, and also the SPI mechanism of jaxws doesn't work in OSGi container)
> >> from jdk isn't much useful and so in Servicemix we shipped jaxb api/impl
> >> bundle and comment it out from jdk, so if customer need use jaxb in
> karaf,
> >> he need do a bit hack anyway.
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >> Freeman
> >>
> >> On 2011-8-30, at 下午3:25, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I suggest we do this also for the jaxb bundles since those are a real
> pain
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> regards, Achim
> >>>
> >>> 2011/8/30 Freeman Fang <freeman.f...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> This commit[1] also do same for JDK1.7.
> >>>> I'd say other JDK API are quite stable but javax.annotation is a
> little
> >>>> bit
> >>>> different so several other bundles(such as activemq, you can get more
> >>>> details from [2]) which are popularly used in KARAF are explicitly
> >>>> specify
> >>>> javax.annotation import version as 1.1, and since JDK6, the
> >>>> javax.annotation
> >>>> is 1.1 compatible, so in this case, if we don't provide this change,
> >>>> customer need hack the jre.properties themselves.
> >>>> But for other jdk packages, 3rd party bundle usually just import but
> >>>> without
> >>>> specified version, so the default export from system bundle 0 should
> be
> >>>> fine
> >>>> IMHO.
> >>>> [1]http://svn.apache.org/**viewvc?rev=1162478&view=rev<
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1162478&view=rev>
> >>>> [2]https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/KARAF-835<
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-835>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards
> >>>> Freeman
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2011-8-30, at 下午12:30, Andreas Pieber wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  I'm a little bit curious because none of the other exported packages
> has
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> version; I'm basically not against adding versions here, but
> shouldn't
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> do
> >>>>> the same for 1.5 and 1.7? Is there any way we can easily lookup which
> >>>>> versions are used by which JRE?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>> Andreas
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:46, <ff...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Author: ffang
> >>>>>> Date: Sun Aug 28 03:46:53 2011
> >>>>>> New Revision: 1162476
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?**rev=1162476&view=rev<
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1162476&view=rev>
> >>>>>> Log:
> >>>>>> [KARAF-840]specify javax.annotation packages version to 1.1.0 for
> >>>>>> jre-1.6
> >>>>>> as Annotation 1.1 Spec is used for Java 6
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Modified:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> karaf/branches/karaf-2.2.x/**assemblies/apache-karaf/src/**
> >>>>>> main/filtered-resources/etc/**jre.properties
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Modified:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> karaf/branches/karaf-2.2.x/**assemblies/apache-karaf/src/**
> >>>>>> main/filtered-resources/etc/**jre.properties
> >>>>>> URL:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**karaf/branches/karaf-2.2.x/**
> >>>>>> assemblies/apache-karaf/src/**main/filtered-resources/etc/**
> >>>>>> jre.properties?rev=1162476&r1=**1162475&r2=1162476&view=diff<
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/karaf/branches/karaf-2.2.x/assemblies/apache-karaf/src/main/filtered-resources/etc/jre.properties?rev=1162476&r1=1162475&r2=1162476&view=diff
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ==============================**==============================**
> >>>>>> ==================
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> karaf/branches/karaf-2.2.x/**assemblies/apache-karaf/src/**
> >>>>>> main/filtered-resources/etc/**jre.properties
> >>>>>> (original)
> >>>>>> +++
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> karaf/branches/karaf-2.2.x/**assemblies/apache-karaf/src/**
> >>>>>> main/filtered-resources/etc/**jre.properties
> >>>>>> Sun Aug 28 03:46:53 2011
> >>>>>> @@ -153,8 +153,8 @@ jre-1.6= \
> >>>>>> javax.accessibility, \
> >>>>>> javax.activation, \
> >>>>>> javax.activity, \
> >>>>>> - javax.annotation, \
> >>>>>> - javax.annotation.processing, \
> >>>>>> + javax.annotation;version="1.1"**, \
> >>>>>> + javax.annotation.processing;**version="1.1", \
> >>>>>> javax.crypto, \
> >>>>>> javax.crypto.interfaces, \
> >>>>>> javax.crypto.spec, \
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------**---------------
> >>>> Freeman Fang
> >>>>
> >>>> FuseSource
> >>>> Email:ff...@fusesource.com
> >>>> Web: fusesource.com
> >>>> Twitter: freemanfang
> >>>> Blog: http://freemanfang.blogspot.**com<
> http://freemanfang.blogspot.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> *Achim Nierbeck*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
> >>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/**display/paxweb/Pax+Web/<
> http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
> >>> >
> >>> Committer & Project Lead
> >>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/**>
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------**---------------
> >> Freeman Fang
> >>
> >> FuseSource
> >> Email:ff...@fusesource.com
> >> Web: fusesource.com
> >> Twitter: freemanfang
> >> Blog: http://freemanfang.blogspot.**com <
> http://freemanfang.blogspot.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Achim Nierbeck*
>
>
> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
> Committer & Project Lead
> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>

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