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http://www.webwizguide.com -----Original Message----- From: Ian Westbrook (BT account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 April 2004 11:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK can anyone recommend a good introductory book/FAQ/online resource for ASP? I've looked at it once or twice and it's always seemed like a sledgehammer to crack a walnut - even the simplest things seem to take reams of code: But I guess that must be me, since all the other developers using ASP can't be wrong (can they?) Ian W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick de Voil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > What is it exactly that Microsoft do and MM don't? > > Nick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephen RAdams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:42 AM > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > I agree, I am seriously thinking of looking into either using JSP or > ASP.Net (with C#), why?, because the job market is better there. I > know there are a lot of people who hate Microsoft, but they do support > and promote their products really well within this country. MM don't > which is a great shame. > > Stephen Adams > Web Developer/Information Sharing > Community Partnerships > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > I think that was well put, and I think that relates to my situation. I > left the CF career and went into software development using C#, Delphi > and VB6. Any web development I have done in this current role was in > ASP and PHP respectively. > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:39 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > The most indicative analysis you can make is based on the number of > jobs that are currently being advertised on websites like jobserve.com: > 44 CF jobs 12 contract > 395 ASP.Net Jobs 82 contract > 523 JSP jobs 156 contract > 137 PHP 31 contract > 123 Flash 56 contract > 1245 J2ee 356 contract > 16 ActionScript 8 Contract > > You can then analyse the type of jobs coming up on freelancers.net and > getafreelancer.com (more of a outsource to India) and you will see a > major disposition towards ASP and PHP (primarily PHP). > > You then have to ask yourself where you want to work. I am personally > trying the teleworking route. > > I currently have my head buried in mach-ii (personal choice), asp.net > using VB, Flash for Server Geeks and am seriously thinking of PHP as > well. > > What I need now is a time machine :) > > So back to your original question, CF is not so much dead as on it's > last legs as a 'career' move. As a development platform it is > brilliant. What will happen is that employers will decide on CF then > try and find people, fail within the job market and switch > technologies BUUUUT it also depends on what you want as a career. > > Adam > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: stephen RAdams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:05 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > > > What do people think of the state of ColdFusion in the UK? I > personally > > think that it's a bit poorly supported and promoted by Macromedia. I > > mean we have a very few user groups (which I am not knocking), but I > > think Macromedia could do more to promote ColdFusion as a product to > > both developers (by supporting further the User Groups) and to > > organisations so that the market for CF is bigger in the UK. > > > > Who's using CF in the UK, where is it going, do Macromedia have a > > plan how to support and promote in the UK. It would be nice to know > > what > they > > are doing so we as developers could see how we could help. > > > > What do other UK based developers think? How could we help better > > promote CF in the UK? > > > > Stephen Adams > > Web Developer/Information Sharing > > Community Partnerships > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided > by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
