> http://www.webwizguide.com that kinda proves my point, though. this is from the webwizguide 'your first ASP page' tutorial., to assign the string 'Hello World' to a variable and output it:
<% Dim strMessage strMessage = "Hello World" Response.Write (strMessage) %> which I guess is not so bad (but why do you have to Dim the var first? If it exists why not just overwrite it with a new var?), but not as easy as (on a .cfm page, obviously) <cfset string = "Hello World"> <cfoutput> #variables.string# (or just #string#) </cfoutput> ? seems to me like the more syntacical stuff you have to remember, the easier it is to get things wrong. I have sen some truly appalling sites in ASP, but I guess that comes down to the point made before - that it's the developer, not the language necessarily... Ian W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Westlake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/ > > http://www.webwizguide.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Westbrook (BT account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 April 2004 11:18 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > can anyone recommend a good introductory book/FAQ/online resource for ASP? > I've looked at it once or twice and it's always seemed like a sledgehammer > to crack a walnut - even the simplest things seem to take reams of code: But > I guess that must be me, since all the other developers using ASP can't be > wrong (can they?) > > Ian W > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick de Voil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > What is it exactly that Microsoft do and MM don't? > > > > Nick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "stephen RAdams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:42 AM > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > > > I agree, I am seriously thinking of looking into either using JSP or > > ASP.Net (with C#), why?, because the job market is better there. I > > know there are a lot of people who hate Microsoft, but they do support > > and promote their products really well within this country. MM don't > > which is a great shame. > > > > Stephen Adams > > Web Developer/Information Sharing > > Community Partnerships > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:45 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > I think that was well put, and I think that relates to my situation. I > > left the CF career and went into software development using C#, Delphi > > and VB6. Any web development I have done in this current role was in > > ASP and PHP respectively. > > > > - Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:39 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > > > The most indicative analysis you can make is based on the number of > > jobs that are currently being advertised on websites like jobserve.com: > > 44 CF jobs 12 contract > > 395 ASP.Net Jobs 82 contract > > 523 JSP jobs 156 contract > > 137 PHP 31 contract > > 123 Flash 56 contract > > 1245 J2ee 356 contract > > 16 ActionScript 8 Contract > > > > You can then analyse the type of jobs coming up on freelancers.net and > > getafreelancer.com (more of a outsource to India) and you will see a > > major disposition towards ASP and PHP (primarily PHP). > > > > You then have to ask yourself where you want to work. I am personally > > trying the teleworking route. > > > > I currently have my head buried in mach-ii (personal choice), asp.net > > using VB, Flash for Server Geeks and am seriously thinking of PHP as > > well. > > > > What I need now is a time machine :) > > > > So back to your original question, CF is not so much dead as on it's > > last legs as a 'career' move. As a development platform it is > > brilliant. What will happen is that employers will decide on CF then > > try and find people, fail within the job market and switch > > technologies BUUUUT it also depends on what you want as a career. > > > > Adam > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: stephen RAdams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:05 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > > > > > > What do people think of the state of ColdFusion in the UK? I > > personally > > > think that it's a bit poorly supported and promoted by Macromedia. I > > > mean we have a very few user groups (which I am not knocking), but I > > > think Macromedia could do more to promote ColdFusion as a product to > > > both developers (by supporting further the User Groups) and to > > > organisations so that the market for CF is bigger in the UK. > > > > > > Who's using CF in the UK, where is it going, do Macromedia have a > > > plan how to support and promote in the UK. It would be nice to know > > > what > > they > > > are doing so we as developers could see how we could help. > > > > > > What do other UK based developers think? How could we help better > > > promote CF in the UK? > > > > > > Stephen Adams > > > Web Developer/Information Sharing > > > Community Partnerships > > > > > > > > -- > > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided > > by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided > by activepdf.com* > > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided > by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
