CF only has an edge over its competitors because it is easy to develop and maintain. It's no good thinking that CF is easier to learn for a (hypothetical) code-challenged individual because as with any developer skill you must be a good developer first. It's easier to write good websites with CF but it is also easier to write crap unmanageable websites.
I think CF is a better product, but I am biased because I am currently mainly a CF developer. However, I do see it going the way of Betamax and the Mac. Some say superior, others say obselete. I dare a Macromedia representative to predict otherwise. Paolo PS Ever noticed the similarity - MACintosh, BetaMACs(X), MACromedia. Perhaps CF should have stayed with Allaire. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Westlake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:59 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > I am farely new to CF. I have been working with ASP, PHP and > Java before > hand and like a lot of what I find in CF. > > I would like to implement CF within a company I work for but there is > resistance. It is not resisitance against the technology, > which I have been > able to demonstrate will save development time/money + tie up > with existing > frameworks, but is through the worry that there are not > enough developers to > supply the ongoing requirements of the business. > > So my question is: Will there be more developers coming into > the community? > How? When???! > > Or should I start thinking about the .NET framework instead - > which may well > require more training than ColdFusion does anyway? > > Sam Westlake > > -----Original Message----- > From: stephen RAdams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:33 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > I remember, when I started, we had people from Allaire > visiting us, talking > about CF, where it was going, what's new, now I don't see > that as much. And > your right those comparisons with other products have > disappeared too. If > we, as CF developers, are supposed to work more closely with > Java, as CFMX > is built on J2EE (which I'm all for). Why aren't Macromedia > trying to use > the status of Java in this country to sell CF with. Java and > CF work so well > together, we should be trying to get the Java community in > the UK to see > what CF can do and how it is an important tool. > > Stephen Adams > Web Developer/Information Sharing > Community Partnerships > 0208 356 3042 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:34 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > agreed. I think Allaire used to do a pretty good job of promoting CF, > as it was pretty much their main product. Now it's just one > of the many > products that Macromedia offers, and is by no way the most important. > You used to see good comparisons between CF, ASP, PHP etc, which I > always thought did a good job of selling it to developers, but those > seem to have disappeared. > also they completely ballsed up the whole Tag Gallery, sorry, > "Coldfusion Exchange" > > > > > > "stephen RAdams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 14/04/2004 10:04 > Please respond to dev > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > What do people think of the state of ColdFusion in the UK? I > personally > think that it's a bit poorly supported and promoted by Macromedia. I > mean we have a very few user groups (which I am not knocking), but I > think Macromedia could do more to promote ColdFusion as a product to > both developers (by supporting further the User Groups) and to > organisations so that the market for CF is bigger in the UK. > > Who's using CF in the UK, where is it going, do Macromedia have a plan > how to support and promote in the UK. It would be nice to > know what they > are doing so we as developers could see how we could help. > > What do other UK based developers think? How could we help better > promote CF in the UK? > > Stephen Adams > Web Developer/Information Sharing > Community Partnerships > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF > provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: > *ActivePDF provided > by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
