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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 14 April 2004 11:12
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK
> 
> 
> What is it exactly that Microsoft do and MM don't?
> 
> Nick
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "stephen RAdams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK
> 
> 
> I agree, I am seriously thinking of looking into either using 
> JSP or ASP.Net (with C#), why?, because the job market is 
> better there. I know there are a lot of people who hate 
> Microsoft, but they do support and promote their products 
> really well within this country. MM don't which is a great shame.
> 
> Stephen Adams
> Web Developer/Information Sharing
> Community Partnerships
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 14 April 2004 10:45
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK
> 
> I think that was well put, and I think that relates to my 
> situation. I left the CF career and went into software 
> development using C#, Delphi and VB6. Any web development I 
> have done in this current role was in ASP and PHP respectively.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 April 2004 10:39
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK
> 
> 
> The most indicative analysis you can make is based on the 
> number of jobs that are currently being advertised on 
> websites like jobserve.com: 44 CF jobs 12 contract 395 
> ASP.Net Jobs 82 contract 523 JSP jobs 156 contract 137 PHP 31 
> contract 123 Flash 56 contract 1245 J2ee 356 contract 16 
> ActionScript 8 Contract
> 
> You can then analyse the type of jobs coming up on 
> freelancers.net and getafreelancer.com (more of a outsource 
> to India) and you will see a major disposition towards ASP 
> and PHP (primarily PHP).
> 
> You then have to ask yourself where you want to work. I am 
> personally trying the teleworking route.
> 
> I currently have my head buried in mach-ii (personal choice), 
> asp.net using VB, Flash for Server Geeks and am seriously 
> thinking of PHP as well.
> 
> What I need now is a time machine :)
> 
> So back to your original question, CF is not so much dead as 
> on it's last legs as a 'career' move. As a development 
> platform it is brilliant. What will happen is that employers 
> will decide on CF then try and find people, fail within the 
> job market and switch technologies BUUUUT it also depends on 
> what you want as a career.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stephen RAdams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 14 April 2004 10:05
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK
> >
> >
> > What do people think of the state of ColdFusion in the UK? I
> personally
> > think that it's a bit poorly supported and promoted by 
> Macromedia. I 
> > mean we have a very few user groups (which I am not 
> knocking), but I 
> > think Macromedia could do more to promote ColdFusion as a 
> product to 
> > both developers (by supporting further the User Groups) and to 
> > organisations so that the market for CF is bigger in the UK.
> >
> > Who's using CF in the UK, where is it going, do Macromedia 
> have a plan 
> > how to support and promote in the UK. It would be nice to know what
> they
> > are doing so we as developers could see how we could help.
> >
> > What do other UK based developers think? How could we help better 
> > promote CF in the UK?
> >
> > Stephen Adams
> > Web Developer/Information Sharing
> > Community Partnerships
> 
> 
> 
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