Hi Carter,

I think we'll have to agree to disagree, especially if you want RTC just to
add a single getter method, as your example shows. At work we use RTC for
everything, no exceptions, and that's all good and works for our team, _at
work_. This is not what I want to do in my free time.

Gary

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:01 PM Carter Kozak <cko...@ckozak.net> wrote:

> What if RTC only applied to the primary branch, release-2.x? We've had
> changes like this[1] which I discovered after the fact and wish we'd had a
> chance to discuss before it merged. Pushing changes prior to review is
> faster and easier for the committer, but ultimately creates an arduous
> process for reviewers. I've found it harder to have retroactive
> conversations about changes that have already merged.
>
> -ck
>
> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/qn9b22fqv4yzg6jb114ovso40fnc1k0n
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 16:22, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > Not for me, this changes CTR to RTC, which is fine for work$, but too
> slow
> > for me here. When I find time for FOSS, I just want to go and do it, not
> > get bogged down in process. RTC is fine for a new medium to large
> feature,
> > but not for everything. Right now, I do something in release-2.x, then
> > cherry-pick to master, already a PITA because of the JPMS mess, now it
> has
> > to be a 4 step process instead of 2? Pass.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 15:25 Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
> >
> > > According to the OSSF Scorecards <https://github.com/ossf/scorecard>,
> we
> > > are missing two check marks (LOG4J2-3260
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-3260>) there:
> > >
> > >    1. Require code review (every change goes into a PR and requires at
> > >    least one reviewer)
> > >    2. Require a CI status check
> > >
> > > Even though I admit with the convenience of freedom we have right now,
> I
> > > personally find it difficult to keep track of what is going in and out.
> > > This convention does not aim to obstruct the development progress, but
> > > rather improve the overall code quality and spread the know-how in a
> > > scalable way. Hence, I want to implement this feature on `release-2.x`
> and
> > > `master` branches. Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>

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