I hope that doesn’t sound too negative, “clinging” never sounds as positive
as I’d like and I do negative plenty well without doing it by accident. Not
a pessimistic statement though, I made it even better than I was planning
or remembering I could or however that works. Resistance is built into the
equation - this isn’t rock and roll, I’m a science bachelor. Though only a
small few liberal arts classes made me go, so I wouldn’t trust the cert
myself. Anyway, I learned from multiple Star Wars movies what to do here,
you have to setup an ambush on the trench run and then just make the thing
look like a huge black star.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 4:38 AM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are already so many conflicts, you will cry and then realize there
> are more. Even worse, some things have been changed due to their
> cost/benefit failings, things that someone, somewhere, will cling to like a
> life vest.
>
> The ref branch waits for no man, and expects the same.
>
> It lives on ridiculous speed and stability and throws mergability to the
> crows.
>
> It could not be merged into anything and survive, but it can absorb
> anything, as long as it behaves like a boss or can be jostled into doing
> so. So fear not for the fearless. You can’t let a specter freeze the
> tireless day to day shifting and shuffling of names and rules and
> locations. I swear, enough lucky shifts and this thing can rise to meet the
> living. I’ve seen it see dead people.
>
> End of the day, if the ref branch can’t survive even a large and lengthy
> divergence, if that is the freeze in its tracks, it’s not at all what I’ve
> said ive been working on and so does it even matter?
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:39 AM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with standardization, whichever convention we choose.  I have
>> a slight preference for FooTest, for the same reason Gus mentioned,
>> but any standard is better than none here IMO.
>>
>> > prefer that we not make a sweeping change like this until after Mark's
>> "ref branch" is reconciled
>>
>> Personally I disagree about the need to wait.  It'd be one thing if
>> there was an agreed-upon plan or a timeframe for merging "ref-branch".
>> But since that's not the case today, I don't think it makes sense to
>> ignore concrete/mergeable improvements.  It seems like a "bird in the
>> hand vs two in the bush" situation.  Especially when there are
>> strategies for handling the conflicts that might arise with Mark's
>> "ref-branch" (e.g. do the test renames on both master and ref_impl).
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12:44 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I look forward to a standardization on *something* but would prefer
>> that we not make a sweeping change like this until after Mark's "ref
>> branch" is reconciled.  I don't want that to hang over the project
>> indefinitely, but we can wait; we've not had this standardization yet for
>> many years, after all.
>> >
>> > That said, it would be good to choose the standard name now so that
>> there is less to change later.  Can someone dig up the statistics on Solr's
>> name choice to see if there is a clear winner (e.g. >60%)?  I don't have a
>> strong opinion on whatever the standard should be so long as there is a
>> standard :-)
>> >
>> >
>> > ~ David Smiley
>> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12:18 PM Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> FWIW, I'm not really in favor of the convention Lucene adopted. I
>> probably lost track of the debate and failed to object which is on me, but
>> I guess it was because that was the lower number of changes there? It's
>> certainly much less legible in the IDE to have a wall of classes all
>> starting with T. Maybe given that the projects are splitting Solr can Stick
>> with FooTest not TestFoo? I think *Test suffix is more common in Solr...
>> (though I haven't attempted to quantify it)
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 12:05 PM Eric Pugh <
>> ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Makes sense to me.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Marcus Eagan <marcusea...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> Now that Lucene’s standardization is complete and I believe enforced,
>> should we discuss if we could bring the same consistency to Solr?
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Marcus
>> >>> --
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>> >>>
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