(Repeating in public what I mentioned in private)

I'm generally opposed to this idea because GitHub has been known to take
political decisions to cut off access to developers just because of their
nationality/region etc. As a community, we should stay politically neutral
and not rely on GitHub to decide on our behalf who to exclude from our
community.

On Thu, 5 May, 2022, 8:45 pm Jan Høydahl, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Given how JIRA has become a monster of a product with different markup
> syntax for each version, and bugs everywhere (does not even work on
> mobile), I'm no longer the JIRA fan I once was.
>
> In Solr we already use github issues for the Solr-Operator sub project
> https://github.com/apache/solr-operator/issues and I believe it has
> worked well. Of course excellent integration with PRs :)
> In earlier discussions on this topic, the idea has been shot down with the
> argument of split bug history and migration challenges. But I think you are
> wise to delay the HOW discussion for now.
> This discussion should also not be about politics. Some may be opposed to
> Microsoft and GitHub, but as long as the ASF has officially blessed github
> as an official option, i'ts not a very constructive discussion.
> The most important decision point on my part is perception by new / young
> users. Look at OpenOffice, they have remained on Bugzilla - are you
> compelled to contribute? :)
>
> Jan
>
> 5. mai 2022 kl. 04:23 skrev Tomoko Uchida <[email protected]>:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> Recently, we relaxed the requirement for creating a Jira issue when
> opening a pull request (LUCENE-10545
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10545>).
>
> As the next and bigger (perhaps ambitious) step, I opened a rough proposal
> for migration to GitHub issue from Jira.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10557
>
> According to the INFRA issue for the RocketMQ project (Michael McCandless
> gave the pointer in a comment on the issue; thanks!), a PMC agreement or
> Vote result is needed for the decision.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15702
>
> Eventually, we'd need a formal vote, but before that, I'd like to hear
> general opinions/thoughts (or feelings) on this topic from developers.
>
> In brief, I think it'd be technically possible and also be good for the
> project - not only for welcoming new developers who are not familiar with
> Jira, but also for improving the experiences of long-term contributors by
> consolidating the conversation platform.
> It'll need some administrative work though, I'm willing to work for it if
> we reach an agreement.
>
> Please note that:
> * This is not a VOTE. Simple vote-style feedback (+/- 1) is welcome, but
> we don't aim to reach a conclusion in this thread.
> * Let's not discuss "how to migrate existing Jira issues" for now. Once we
> decide the migration will be good for us, then we can try to figure out a
> reasonable solution for technical/administrative matters.
>
> I may be too optimistic about it; but - a bit of stupidness will be needed
> to start such a move, and I'm serious about this proposal :)
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Tomoko
>
>
>

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