-1 (PMC, but not a veto)
Why ? As stated earlier, I'm not confortable with depending on GitHub for
governance. As long as Lucene is an "Apache" project, I'd like Apache
governance to determine who may or may not participate, not GitHub. I'd like
Apache to determine what is and is not "acceptable behavior" from project
participants.
That being said, the reasons for migrating off of Jira are all sound and, as
an alternative, I propose that we consider moving to an Apache-hosted
instance of GitLab. We'd still get all the benefits of migrating off of Jira
but also the benefits of Apache running our infrastructure and setting our
governance. Feature-wise, GitHub and GitLab are very similar but GitLab
offers the possibility of self-hosting our instance.
Andi..
On Tue, 31 May 2022, Tomoko Uchida wrote:
Hi everyone!
As we had previous discussion thread [1], I propose migration to GitHub
issue from Jira.
It'd be technically possible (see [2] for details) and I think it'd be good
for the project - not only for welcoming new developers who are not
familiar with Jira, but also for improving the experiences of long-term
committers/contributors by consolidating the conversation platform.
You can see a short summary of the discussion, some stats on current Jira
issues, and a draft migration plan in [2].
Please review [2] if you haven't seen it and vote for this proposal.
The vote will be open until 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC.
[ ] +1 approve
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
Here is my +1
*IMPORTANT NOTE*
I set a local protocol for this vote.
There are 95 committers on this project [3] - the vote will be effective if
it successfully gains more than 15% of voters (>= 15) from committers
(including PMC members). This means, that although only PMC member votes
are counted for the final result, the votes from all committers are
important to make the vote result effective.
If there are less than 15 votes at 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC, I will expand the
term to 2022-06-13 16:00 UTC. If this fails to get sufficient voters after
the expanded time limit, I'll cancel this vote regardless of the result.
But why do I set such an extra bar? My fear is that if such things are
decided by the opinions of a few members, the result shouldn't yield a good
outcome for the future. It isn't my goal to just pass the vote [4].
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/78wj0vll73sct065m5jjm4z8gqb5yffk
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10557
[3] https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?lucene
[4] I'm sorry for being overly cautious, but I have never met in person or
virtually any of the committers (with a very few exceptions), therefore
cannot assess if the vote result is reliable or not unless there is certain
explicit feedback.
Tomoko
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