+1(committer, non PMC) Lately I kinda feel having to create the Jira, after I detailed a contribution in the pull request, is just a boilerplate activity of copying and pasting and tagging again. I would be happy to reduce this burden. I left other details in the discussion thread.
Cheers On Tue, 31 May 2022, 21:19 Jason Gerlowski, <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 (PMC) > > I understand concerns about handing governance over to a 3rd party, but > letting that drive our decision-making here feels like optimizing for a > rare case that might never occur. I'd m,uch rather optimize for making > things easiest for contributors, and then accommodate any "Github ToS ban, > sanctions, etc." situations if and when they crop up on a case by case > basis. > > Best, > > Jason > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:09 AM Gus Heck <[email protected]> wrote: > >> -1 I think the disruption and bifurcation of where to find history is not >> worth it. I also noticed a comment in the lucene issue for migration with >> summaries by date range, status, affects version, etc. sub-area, exactly >> the sort of thing I expect to be much more difficult to obtain from github. >> What I would find interesting is a deep integration of the two systems so >> that initiation and basic commenting could be handled on github, but >> transmitted to Jira where full metadata and reporting/tracking could be >> maintained. >> >> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:17 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> -1 >>> >>> On Tue, 31 May, 2022, 4:06 am Xi Chen, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 from me (committer, non-PMC) >>>> >>>> Thanks Tomoko for starting the discussion and organizing / leading this >>>> effort! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Zach >>>> >>>> On May 30, 2022, at 2:56 PM, Houston Putman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 Approve (PMC) >>>> >>>> Thanks so much for doing all of the work for this Tomoko! >>>> >>>> - Houston >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 5:38 PM David Smiley <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 Approve (PMC) >>>>> >>>>> ~ David Smiley >>>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:40 AM Tomoko Uchida < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone! >>>>>> >>>>>> As we had previous discussion thread [1], I propose migration to >>>>>> GitHub issue from Jira. >>>>>> It'd be technically possible (see [2] for details) and I think it'd >>>>>> be good for the project - not only for welcoming new developers who are >>>>>> not >>>>>> familiar with Jira, but also for improving the experiences of long-term >>>>>> committers/contributors by consolidating the conversation platform. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can see a short summary of the discussion, some stats on current >>>>>> Jira issues, and a draft migration plan in [2]. >>>>>> Please review [2] if you haven't seen it and vote for this proposal. >>>>>> >>>>>> The vote will be open until 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC. >>>>>> >>>>>> [ ] +1 approve >>>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion >>>>>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is my +1 >>>>>> >>>>>> *IMPORTANT NOTE* >>>>>> I set a local protocol for this vote. >>>>>> There are 95 committers on this project [3] - the vote will be >>>>>> effective if it successfully gains more than 15% of voters (>= 15) from >>>>>> committers (including PMC members). This means, that although only PMC >>>>>> member votes are counted for the final result, the votes from all >>>>>> committers are important to make the vote result effective. >>>>>> >>>>>> If there are less than 15 votes at 2022-06-06 16:00 UTC, I will >>>>>> expand the term to 2022-06-13 16:00 UTC. If this fails to get sufficient >>>>>> voters after the expanded time limit, I'll cancel this vote regardless of >>>>>> the result. >>>>>> But why do I set such an extra bar? My fear is that if such things >>>>>> are decided by the opinions of a few members, the result shouldn't yield >>>>>> a >>>>>> good outcome for the future. It isn't my goal to just pass the vote [4]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/78wj0vll73sct065m5jjm4z8gqb5yffk >>>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10557 >>>>>> [3] https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?lucene >>>>>> [4] I'm sorry for being overly cautious, but I have never met in >>>>>> person or virtually any of the committers (with a very few exceptions), >>>>>> therefore cannot assess if the vote result is reliable or not unless >>>>>> there >>>>>> is certain explicit feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tomoko >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> -- >> http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work) >> http://www.the111shift.com (play) >> >
