2014-06-11 15:32 GMT+02:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>: > Generally in the last 13 years these types of meetings have resulted in very > little other than people who are being paid to work on Maven. First it's not > a trivial amount of money for many to travel across the world for a meeting > and miss several >days of work, even if you live in Europe. Second, having > these big-bang, lets-change-the-world events have always dissipated out > pretty fast. This is not cynicism, this is just observed fact over the years. > If no one is working on basic maintenance > and bug fixing then I highly > doubt anything bigger is going to change.
As far as I know no-one is vacuuming the market for employing maven devs these days, so the chances for getting such a job by attending apachecon is probably close to zero. I'm not suggesting we change the world, I just think it would be a nice thing to do. Neither am I suggesting a "project" as such but if such a thing was to happen I would definitely want some kind of predefined agenda and maybe even some prepared materials - not just beer drinking. I am not impressed by the lack of evolution in maven, which also basically includes every side project I've seen up to date - including efforts outside apache. > However, I do think that talking with others is orders of magnitude more > productive than mailing lists, but we can start doing this today with a > Google hangout. Having face-to-face meetings more often and discussing > changes I think would be a positive step forward and doesn't require > traveling around the world to accomplish. There is no either/or. You can have your hangouts, I'll still see if there's interest in meeting up at apachecon. The cost is significant, and I am also unsure about the overall schedule/value of a whole week's worth of conferencing. But I'll leave that consideration until the agenda starts showing up. Kristian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org