Kristian, legal-discuss is a public list, with public archives. You can go read these remarks for yourself in the archive. I apologize for assuming that you or anyone else didn't know that. Yes I am a member, but Ralph and I are not quoting any private crap.
Note that some Ralph posed a relatively specific legal question to start with, and then it grew and grew into a more complex policy discussion that board members happened to participate in. If you want a clear statement of the board's view, you can ask the board. The board in general would, I bet, rather get a coherent question from the PMC chair in the monthly report, and deal with that, but nothing stops you from sending email to board@ stating your view of the question at hand and asking for clarification. I wasn't here for the technical deep history, I'm depending on what people have written lately, and as of your message (if not before) people have written what to me is a bewildering variety of contradictory things. If your copy of history is the accurate one, then it explains Ralph's views about dual licenses. In any case, Jason's invitation to all and sundry to have commit access on day one looks like an opportunity to lower the temperature on all this. I chose those words carefully, please no one accuse me of thinking that it's a guaranteed solution in a bottle. I think you've all read enough from me on this subject to last you a good long time, so I'm going to stop typing for the rest of the weekend at least. --benson On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Kristian Rosenvold <[email protected]> wrote: > lø., 30.07.2011 kl. 14.51 -0400, skrev Benson Margulies: >> Commits were made that caused Maven to depend on >> code outside of Apache. What's now clear is that this was a one-way >> street, *whatever the license on the code*, due to the policy >> requirement for voluntary contributions. > > Technically I am unsure if this statement is true. At the time aether > was extracted, maven3 was more or less functionally complete. Most of > what has happened since then was bug-fixes. > > All this is slightly hypothetical, but we may be able to revert from > r988749 (introduction of aether) and re-work from there. The integration > test suite would pretty much tell if it's being done correctly. Do not > underestimate the quality of those ITs. > > The code-bases are sufficiently similar that selectively re-implementing > specific bugfixes is an option. > > Now why on earth would we do all that? Can someone please point to me to > the *written* statement from the board that says we can't a) fork to > "apache-extras" or B) fork the last asl version to "maven-extras" on > github (together with plexus and sisu ?) I'm tired of all this word-of > mouth crap I seem to be getting from management upstairs; and that > includes all you ASF members. > > Kristian > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
