Ok. Yes that's sure it has to be discussed. That's why I reopened the subject.
About the implementation :
* as a user I have really no preference, I just want the feature
* as a developer I played with both and for me these are just loggers
. We may organize a fight between Ceki and Ralph but it won't help I
think. I agree that log4j2 is in beta which is annoying (? Or not. We
are talking about a logging lib that is doing some println - but with
colors )
* as PMC and ASF member I suppose I should say that our projects are
the best and we should privilege our own stuffs for the safety of our
ecosystem.

Cheers.

---------
Arnaud

Le 1 déc. 2012 à 09:26, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> a écrit :

>
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> Couldn't we have a look at olamy's log4j2 branch to see if we could
>> sanitize / merge it to propose at least one change for the end user
>> and demonstrate the interest of the change about logs : a colorized
>> console.
>
> Not without discussion about the implementation. To me the obvious choice is 
> Logback and using Log4J2 makes no sense. Olivier disagrees so there will be a 
> discussion. I've been working on the release but I plan to make a branch 
> using Logback so we have a basis for discussion.
>
>>
>> I remember you did that in mvnsh/teslashell a long time ago (as an
>> extension ?) and perhaps it could be easy to add properly this feature
>> in 3.1.0 (otherwise it won't be before a 3.2.0).
>>
>> Myself I'm using a 3.1.0 fork with this patch and I' m really
>> satisfied (it's so good to quickly see highlighted warning and errors
>> ). I merged it back in the last 3.1.0 tag you did without issue
>>
>> Wdyt?
>
> Just as easy with Logback, the only difference being Logback is a mature 
> solution. So I'm sure there's going to be a discussion.
>
>>
>> ---------
>> Arnaud
>>
>> Le 1 déc. 2012 à 00:20, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>
>>> I'm done with the issues that cropped up so I'm ready to re-spin 3.1.0.
>>>
>>> Anyone want to add anything or discuss anything before I spin this? I'm not 
>>> in any rush so if folks want to talk about logging we can. But given the 
>>> fact once SLF4J initializes it can't change the implementation plugins 
>>> integrating with Maven need to use the implementation we choose. This is 
>>> how everything else in the world that integrates SLF4J has to operate so I 
>>> don't really see us being any different.
>>>
>>> I'll wait until tomorrow to re-spin.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
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>>> Jason van Zyl
>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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