> > > Should the PMC encourage people experimenting on new improvements to Maven > to do that work at the ASF? And if so, should they then practice what they > preach, and ensure that any experiments with Maven take place on the ASF > SCM servers (at least once such experiments become semi-serious or progress > enough not to cause egg-on-face syndrome)? > > That feels to me like swimming entirely against the tide, and a recipe for irrelevance.
Who, in 2013, *cares* about Apache's SCM? OSS, for just about everyone I speak to these days runs thus: 1) Is it on Github? 2) If no, fork onto GIthub. ASF might indeed value "community over code", but that doesn't seem to be a winning strategy any longer, and those changes seem to be trying to double-down on that strategy. Perhaps Maven should extricate itself from the ASF. Maybe that's what long standing forks will do.
