Hi Kevin, Gary Thanks for the reply. I sent out the invites for next weekend for meeting as we may have difficult to align with everyone's schedule this week (Gary's night time will be Kevin's Monday morning)
Please feel free to suggest new meeting time as appropriate, and we can make new schedule after other folks jump in. Thanks and enjoy the rest of the weekend. Yanhui ________________________________ From: Gang(Gary) Wang <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:50 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: Yanhui ZHAO <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Mnemonic retirement I'm also available today, thanks. On Sun, Oct 11, 2020, 1:08 AM Kevin Ratnasekera <[email protected]> wrote: > I am available within the day. Please reply if you are available to have > it today. > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 2:47 AM Gang(Gary) Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The following link might be useful for a meeting in weekend > > https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=30,8&h=8 > > > > I'm okay for a time slot at night, Thanks for scheduling > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:20 AM Kevin Ratnasekera < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Zhao, > >> > >> I will be able to allocate some time over the weekend, I am based in Sri > >> Lanka ( IST time ) so I am thinking whether it will work for others. > Just > >> let me know what works best for you/others. > >> > >> I second what Dave mentioned, these need discussed on public threads and > >> have some visibility over it. I have also noticed people replying to > this > >> email thread. Maybe we can encourage them to involve in these plans and > >> join them in contributing to the project. > >> > >> I also want to seek advice from the board as well, specifically on > moving > >> forward, since there are no 3 PMC members active to even elect a single > >> external contributor. I would like to know the board process to > >> reconstitute an active PMC with at least three members in cases such as > >> this. > >> > >> Regards > >> Kevin > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:55 AM Yanhui ZHAO <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Kevin and folks > >>> > >>> Do you have time for a sync meeting over the weekend to discuss project > >>> planning and roadmap? > >>> > >>> Considering people may live in different time zone so please share the > >>> time you prefer so that we can best coordinate. > >>> > >>> Thanks and talk to you soon! > >>> > >>> Yanhui > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> *From:* Kevin Ratnasekera <[email protected]> > >>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 4, 2020 2:03 PM > >>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] < > >>> [email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> *Cc:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [VOTE] Apache Mnemonic retirement > >>> > >>> Hi Folks, > >>> > >>> I have worked with Gang in the past, I have contributed to Apache > >>> Mnemonic during the past year. [1] I also noticed my contributions were > >>> recognized and proposed me as a committer to the project. [2] I was > also a > >>> bit discouraged by the lack of activity by Mnemonic PMC except Gang, I > >>> couldn't continue my usual contributions. > >>> > >>> -1 from my end, I would also like to see this project moving forward > >>> with a plan mentioned. Zhao, Gang I would like to volunteer, if you > need > >>> help from my end and couldn't find help from a 3rd member. > >>> > >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/mnemonic/commits?author=djkevincr > >>> [2] > >>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/508a6710cd60320a8ffbc2035fd154cfbfa1fadc23320456afd11578%40%3Cprivate.mnemonic.apache.org%3E > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Kevin > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 1:05 AM Yanhui ZHAO <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks, Craig > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> This is Yanhui Zhao and I am a PMC member. After last ROLL Call I have > >>> been connecting with Gang through weekly meetings regarding the > roadmap of > >>> Mnemonic for our next steps, and we are drafting some topics including > but > >>> not limited information below. After finalizing the priorities list we > will > >>> send it out for the community reviews. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As we are moving forward we hope a third current PMC member to work > with > >>> us. If no current PMC volunteers, we hope to absorb new PMC member if > >>> possible to keep the project moving forward. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please take this as my -1 vote with the reasoning above, thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> BR > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yanhui Zhao > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> === > >>> > >>> Project goal: > >>> > >>> To deliver a pre-product durable object model library working with > >>> persistent memory and high performance storage at the end of next year. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Project objectives > >>> > >>> 1) A stable and efficient CI system > >>> > >>> 2) A improved documentation and website > >>> > >>> 3) Integrated with Bytebuddy > >>> > >>> 4) Supporting JDK14 and leveraging the feature of non-volatile mapped > >>> byte buffers (incubator) > >>> > >>> 5) Adding Redis as one of backend of durable object > >>> > >>> 6) Verified code quality and testing > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Highlights key values of our project is (1) provide unified interface > >>> for storage(memory) backend, (2) remove se-des process to improve the > >>> access speed thus improving read/write performance > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Project Milestones > >>> > >>> 1) Dec. 2020, CI documentation and website (v0.14.0) > >>> > >>> 2) May. 2021, Bytebuddy and JDK14 (v0.15.0) > >>> > >>> 3) Oct. 2020, Redis backend and quality (v0.16.0) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Project Communication > >>> > >>> 1) Weekly regular meeting 30mins - 60 mins > >>> > >>> 2) Event based release meeting > >>> > >>> 3) Reporting meeting > >>> > >>> 4) Maillist, Jira, PR based discussion > >>> > >>> 5) Management meeting on demand > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> *From:* Craig Russell <[email protected]> > >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 2, 2020 3:10 PM > >>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>> *Cc:* Apache Board <[email protected]> > >>> *Subject:* [VOTE] Apache Mnemonic retirement > >>> > >>> Dear members of the Mnemonic Community, > >>> > >>> tl;dr please reply to this message. > >>> > >>> [ ] +1 retire the Mnemonic project > >>> [ ] -1 do not retire the Mnemonic project because... > >>> > >>> I am getting in touch with the Mnemonic community members in regard to > >>> the health of the project. > >>> > >>> There appears to be some work being done but almost all of the activity > >>> in the last several months is from just one person. The most recent > board > >>> report states that one PMC member left in August 2020 but I was unable > to > >>> find any evidence of this event. > >>> > >>> As projects mature, they will naturally reach a point where activity > >>> reduces to a level such that the project is no longer sustainable. At > >>> Apache, projects reach this stage when there are not at least 3 active > PMC > >>> members providing oversight. Projects that reach this stage are usually > >>> placed in the Attic [1] or absorbed by another Apache project willing > to > >>> manage its releases. > >>> > >>> On the other hand, if your project has very low activity for good > >>> reasons and has at least three active PMC members willing to perform > >>> oversight, it can remain an Apache project so long as the Board is > properly > >>> informed and the project remains open and welcoming to new > contributors. > >>> > >>> There was a ROLL CALL last month to which only one PMC member > responded. > >>> > >>> At this time, I am requesting a formal VOTE of the Apache Mnemonic > >>> community. If you feel that this project is still viable, and able to > >>> reconstitute an active PMC with at least three members, please respond > to > >>> this message accordingly. If you are a member of the PMC but have > moved on > >>> or are no longer able to participate, please tell us so that the > project's > >>> status is clear. Failure to respond will indicate a lack of interest in > >>> oversight. > >>> > >>> Please don't take this message as a criticism of the project or its > >>> current chair. This is an expected event in the timeline of many open > >>> source projects, and sometimes results in a renewed interest from the > >>> development community. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> Director, The Apache Software Foundation > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>> > >>> > >>> [1] https://attic.apache.org/ <https://attic.apache.org/> > >>> > >>> > >>> >
