I plan to start a vote on the adopting https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal to replace our current document https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer tomorrow (Monday).
- Carin On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 8:32 AM Carin Meier <carinme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for publishing the notes and also thanks everyone for providing > valuable feedback and discussion. > > I encourage everyone that has ideas for improvement to the document to > feel free to edit and revise. If you need a login to the wiki, please just > ask. > > Also, while editing, please keep in mind that the intent is to have a vote > on adopting the new > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal > to replace our current document > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer > before a vote on separating levels of committer and PPMC as a process. So, > if possible, adopting wording that would work in either outcome of that > vote. > > On the subject of voting, I was thinking of starting a vote on Friday, but > will delay that until the active discussions and revisions are complete. > > Best, > Carin > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:39 AM Pedro Larroy <pedro.larroy.li...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This is the first hangout that I was able to attend, I liked the format >> and >> found them valuable. Thanks for organizing and publishing the notes. >> Looking forward to the next one. >> >> Pedro >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:44 AM Steffen Rochel <steffenroc...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Carin - please see >> > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Hangout+October+24th+2018+8am+and+5pm+PDT >> > : >> > Discussion about committer proposal: >> > >> > - Proposal default should be to have separation between committer and >> > PPMC election >> > - Criteria are vague, should we add some example persona? >> > - Spell out privileges of committer and PPMC member >> > >> > >> > Note: I update the project proposal to address first bullet. >> > >> > Steffen >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:29 AM Carin Meier <carinme...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > A request to whoever is taking notes at the MXNet Hangouts that are >> > > occurring today. Could you please recap feedback from the meeting in >> > > regards to document revisions here for everyone? I would like to >> attend >> > the >> > > session later today, but may not due to family obligations. >> > > >> > > Thanks! >> > > Carin >> > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:24 PM Steffen Rochel < >> steffenroc...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Carin - I got feedback on my proposal and made changes. I >> incorporated >> > > > Tianqi's suggesiton that we should strive to nominate committer/PPMC >> > > > candidates from outside ones own organization. It should not be >> > > considered >> > > > as a hard rule, but recommendation. >> > > > >> > > > Steffen >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:18 PM Carin Meier <carinme...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks Steffen helping draft up the proposal for Committer and >> PPMC >> > > > > guidelines. >> > > > > >> > > > > Please everyone review and provide feedback >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+(incubating)+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal >> > > > > . >> > > > > >> > > > > I plan to start a vote on this Friday if the discussions/revisions >> > are >> > > > > complete. >> > > > > >> > > > > - Carin >> > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM Carin Meier < >> carinme...@gmail.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Great! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I started a rough draft for collaboration at >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+a+Committer+Proposal >> > > > > > . >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Everyone feel free to enhance and provide feedback. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > - Carin >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:55 AM Steffen Rochel < >> > > > steffenroc...@gmail.com >> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> +1, great suggestion, thanks Carin! >> > > > > >> I'm willing to collaborate to create a draft proposal. >> > > > > >> Steffen >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 5:35 AM Carin Meier < >> carinme...@gmail.com >> > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Background: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > There is a desire to increase the committer pool and grow the >> > > > > community. >> > > > > >> > This thread is to discuss the possibility of revision the >> > current >> > > > > >> committer >> > > > > >> > criteria in light of the following goals: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > - Make it easier to newcomers to be committers >> > > > > >> > - Recognize non-code contributions as paths to committership >> > > > > >> > - Open the door to separating levels of committer and PMC >> > > (discussed >> > > > > in >> > > > > >> > another thread) >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Current State: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > The current committer criteria is here >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer >> > > > > >> as >> > > > > >> > is modeled after the Hadoop committer criteria >> > > > > >> > https://hadoop.apache.org/committer_criteria.html >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Proposal: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Model the MXNet path to committership and PMC after the >> Apache >> > > Beam >> > > > > >> project >> > > > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/ >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Short quote from page: >> > > > > >> > ================= >> > > > > >> > An Apache Beam committer… >> > > > > >> > < >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#an-apache-beam-committer >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > - Takes many forms >> > > > > >> > < >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > >> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#takes-many-forms >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the Apache Software >> > Foundation >> > > > > code >> > > > > >> of >> > > > > >> > conduct >> > > > > >> > < >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-apache-software-foundation-code-of-conduct >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the responsibilities of >> an >> > > > Apache >> > > > > >> > Software Foundation committer >> > > > > >> > < >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-responsibilities-of-an-apache-software-foundation-committer >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the Beam community’s >> > practices >> > > > > >> > < >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-beam-communitys-practices >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > - ================= >> > > > > >> > < >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-beam-communitys-practices >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > I believe if we merge our current committer criteria with >> this >> > > model >> > > > > it >> > > > > >> > will open the path to committership to a wider pool, >> > acknowledge >> > > > that >> > > > > >> > there are multiple paths, and reinforce the ASF values and >> > > > > >> > responsibilities. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > The Beam model does not explicitly address a PMC level but we >> > > could >> > > > > add >> > > > > >> it >> > > > > >> > in in the same spirit of reinforcing the ASF responsibilities >> > and >> > > > > >> values of >> > > > > >> > this level. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Looking forward to feedback about this possible direction. If >> > the >> > > > > >> community >> > > > > >> > is interested looking more into this direction I would be >> happy >> > to >> > > > > >> create >> > > > > >> > of first draft of something more concrete to look at - (or if >> > > > someone >> > > > > >> else >> > > > > >> > wants to take a crack at it too that would be great) >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > - Carin >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
