Thanks Carin Tianqi
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 8:04 AM Carin Meier <carinme...@gmail.com> wrote: > I plan to start a vote on the adopting > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal > to > replace our current document > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer > tomorrow > (Monday). > > - Carin > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 8:32 AM Carin Meier <carinme...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for publishing the notes and also thanks everyone for providing > > valuable feedback and discussion. > > > > I encourage everyone that has ideas for improvement to the document to > > feel free to edit and revise. If you need a login to the wiki, please > just > > ask. > > > > Also, while editing, please keep in mind that the intent is to have a > vote > > on adopting the new > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal > > to replace our current document > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer > > before a vote on separating levels of committer and PPMC as a process. > So, > > if possible, adopting wording that would work in either outcome of that > > vote. > > > > On the subject of voting, I was thinking of starting a vote on Friday, > but > > will delay that until the active discussions and revisions are complete. > > > > Best, > > Carin > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:39 AM Pedro Larroy < > pedro.larroy.li...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> This is the first hangout that I was able to attend, I liked the format > >> and > >> found them valuable. Thanks for organizing and publishing the notes. > >> Looking forward to the next one. > >> > >> Pedro > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:44 AM Steffen Rochel <steffenroc...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Carin - please see > >> > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Hangout+October+24th+2018+8am+and+5pm+PDT > >> > : > >> > Discussion about committer proposal: > >> > > >> > - Proposal default should be to have separation between committer > and > >> > PPMC election > >> > - Criteria are vague, should we add some example persona? > >> > - Spell out privileges of committer and PPMC member > >> > > >> > > >> > Note: I update the project proposal to address first bullet. > >> > > >> > Steffen > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:29 AM Carin Meier <carinme...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > A request to whoever is taking notes at the MXNet Hangouts that are > >> > > occurring today. Could you please recap feedback from the meeting in > >> > > regards to document revisions here for everyone? I would like to > >> attend > >> > the > >> > > session later today, but may not due to family obligations. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks! > >> > > Carin > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:24 PM Steffen Rochel < > >> steffenroc...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Carin - I got feedback on my proposal and made changes. I > >> incorporated > >> > > > Tianqi's suggesiton that we should strive to nominate > committer/PPMC > >> > > > candidates from outside ones own organization. It should not be > >> > > considered > >> > > > as a hard rule, but recommendation. > >> > > > > >> > > > Steffen > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:18 PM Carin Meier <carinme...@gmail.com > > > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks Steffen helping draft up the proposal for Committer and > >> PPMC > >> > > > > guidelines. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Please everyone review and provide feedback > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+(incubating)+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal > >> > > > > . > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I plan to start a vote on this Friday if the > discussions/revisions > >> > are > >> > > > > complete. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > - Carin > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM Carin Meier < > >> carinme...@gmail.com> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Great! > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I started a rough draft for collaboration at > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+a+Committer+Proposal > >> > > > > > . > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Everyone feel free to enhance and provide feedback. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > - Carin > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:55 AM Steffen Rochel < > >> > > > steffenroc...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> +1, great suggestion, thanks Carin! > >> > > > > >> I'm willing to collaborate to create a draft proposal. > >> > > > > >> Steffen > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 5:35 AM Carin Meier < > >> carinme...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > Background: > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > There is a desire to increase the committer pool and grow > the > >> > > > > community. > >> > > > > >> > This thread is to discuss the possibility of revision the > >> > current > >> > > > > >> committer > >> > > > > >> > criteria in light of the following goals: > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > - Make it easier to newcomers to be committers > >> > > > > >> > - Recognize non-code contributions as paths to > committership > >> > > > > >> > - Open the door to separating levels of committer and PMC > >> > > (discussed > >> > > > > in > >> > > > > >> > another thread) > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Current State: > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > The current committer criteria is here > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Becoming+a+Committer > >> > > > > >> as > >> > > > > >> > is modeled after the Hadoop committer criteria > >> > > > > >> > https://hadoop.apache.org/committer_criteria.html > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Proposal: > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Model the MXNet path to committership and PMC after the > >> Apache > >> > > Beam > >> > > > > >> project > >> > > > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/ > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Short quote from page: > >> > > > > >> > ================= > >> > > > > >> > An Apache Beam committer… > >> > > > > >> > < > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#an-apache-beam-committer > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > - Takes many forms > >> > > > > >> > < > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#takes-many-forms > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the Apache Software > >> > Foundation > >> > > > > code > >> > > > > >> of > >> > > > > >> > conduct > >> > > > > >> > < > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-apache-software-foundation-code-of-conduct > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the responsibilities of > >> an > >> > > > Apache > >> > > > > >> > Software Foundation committer > >> > > > > >> > < > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-responsibilities-of-an-apache-software-foundation-committer > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > - Knows, upholds, and reinforces the Beam community’s > >> > practices > >> > > > > >> > < > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-beam-communitys-practices > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > - ================= > >> > > > > >> > < > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://beam.apache.org/contribute/become-a-committer/#knows-upholds-and-reinforces-the-beam-communitys-practices > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > I believe if we merge our current committer criteria with > >> this > >> > > model > >> > > > > it > >> > > > > >> > will open the path to committership to a wider pool, > >> > acknowledge > >> > > > that > >> > > > > >> > there are multiple paths, and reinforce the ASF values and > >> > > > > >> > responsibilities. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > The Beam model does not explicitly address a PMC level but > we > >> > > could > >> > > > > add > >> > > > > >> it > >> > > > > >> > in in the same spirit of reinforcing the ASF > responsibilities > >> > and > >> > > > > >> values of > >> > > > > >> > this level. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Looking forward to feedback about this possible direction. > If > >> > the > >> > > > > >> community > >> > > > > >> > is interested looking more into this direction I would be > >> happy > >> > to > >> > > > > >> create > >> > > > > >> > of first draft of something more concrete to look at - (or > if > >> > > > someone > >> > > > > >> else > >> > > > > >> > wants to take a crack at it too that would be great) > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > - Carin > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
