As a physicist I would like to point out that "Gluon" means: An elementary particle that acts as the exchange particle for the strong force between quarks [1]. As a general scientific term it can barely be seen as a candidate for trademark registration.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluon On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 10:27, Leonard Lausen <l-softw...@lausen.nl> wrote: > Carin recently noted that gluonhq.com already uses the Gluon brand for > end-to-end enterprise mobile solution and Marco found that they do so > apparently since at least 2015. Do you see any impact on the Gluon brand > for deep learning models? > > The MXNet brand is currently also unregistered by Apache (but registered > by various other companies), whereas for example Tensorflow is > registered by Google LLC in a variety of jurisdictions. Trademarks > registered under the Madrid System can be found at > https://www3.wipo.int/branddb/en/ > > Best regards > Leonard > > Hen <bay...@apache.org> writes: > > > Amazon. Amazon created the brand. They own the first repository to use > the > > term in this conext ( https://github.com/gluon-api ). There was some > > involvement from Microsoft, so Microsoft's opinion may also be relevant. > > Gluon is not an Apache Software Foundation nor Apache MXNet brand. > > > > Unless it was very recent, I don't believe there have been any trademark > > registrations. If Amazon would prefer Apache control the Gluon naming, I > > think the simplest 'act' to make that so would be to move the gluon-api > > repository over to ASF control. > > > > Hen > > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:27 AM Chris Olivier <cjolivie...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Who is the gluon “Brand Owner”? > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:43 AM Chris Olivier <cjolivie...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Who is the gluon "brand owner"? > >> > > >> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:13 AM Qing Lan <lanking...@live.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Lieven, > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for your comments. After the discussion with several > committers > >> >> and contributors offline, we agreed that there are space for > >> improvement. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 1. About the Gluon naming > >> >> > >> >> As we know, Gluon is born with the unique API design pattern. It > >> >> gradually became the dominant Python front end for MXNet. I would > >> suggest > >> >> to discuss more with the Brand owner and see if there could be a > further > >> >> integration with MXNet. To MXNet itself, it becomes more popular with > >> this > >> >> frontend. We lean on the strong community and improve our product > >> better by > >> >> consuming the feedback from it. > >> >> > >> >> 2. Diversity of the PMC > >> >> Currently, we have 40 PMC numbers from different companies, like > Amazon, > >> >> Uber, NVIDIA, ByteDance and a lot more. We are trying to grow the > number > >> >> and invite indivials from different companies as well as research > >> institute. > >> >> > >> >> 3. Release rotation > >> >> In the history, most of the releases were done by the Amazon side. > >> >> Currently, we are moving on to rotate this responsibility with > >> >> contributors/committers not from Amazon to start working on them. > >> >> > >> >> 4. Committers from different firm/institution should have real > work > >> >> on MXNet > >> >> I can tell from the issues/PRs/rfcs they submitted and indeed and > indeed > >> >> we should encourage the committers who is less active to be involved > >> into > >> >> MXNet contribution. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Qing > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> From: Lieven Govaerts <l...@mobsol.be> > >> >> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 5:59 > >> >> To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org <dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org> > >> >> Cc: d...@mxnet.apache.org <d...@mxnet.apache.org> > >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache MXNet: Path to graduation > >> >> > >> >> Hi Qing, > >> >> > >> >> as a user and ASF member observing this project: > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 01:44, Qing Lan <lanking...@live.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Hi All, > >> >> > > >> >> > I would like to start a thread to discuss about the graduation for > >> >> Apache > >> >> > MXNet. From my time working in the community, I saw a great > >> improvement > >> >> in > >> >> > most of the area that we do to make MXNet a better place. We keep > >> >> tracking > >> >> > on all of the issues user raised and reviewing PRs. We follow the > >> Apache > >> >> > Way to release the package in official repository. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> in terms of code, documentation, visibility this project is certainly > >> in a > >> >> healthy state, I see a lot of interest of companies and people, the > >> >> community is growing... As a user that gives me confidence my time > >> >> invested > >> >> in this product is well spent. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > In 2017, Apache MXNet joined the Apache incubation project. I think > >> now > >> >> is > >> >> > a good time to review the path to graduate MXNet and move forward > to > >> it. > >> >> > Please feel free to share your thoughts on graduation and space for > >> >> > improvement. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> If I may share one observation: I don't see the community working a > lot > >> on > >> >> non-code topics. One example that I personally find important is the > >> >> discussion of the Gluon brand. People have expressed confusion about > how > >> >> the name is used by multiple non-ASF projects, the MXNet team finds > the > >> >> Gluon name very valuable yet the discussion on how to protect the > name > >> and > >> >> decide on acceptable use by other projects has stalled [1]. I suggest > >> you > >> >> make a decision on this topic before you go for graduation. > >> >> > >> >> regards, > >> >> > >> >> Lieven > >> >> > >> >> [1] > >> >> > >> >> > >> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mxnet-dev/201903.mbox/%3ccac_cu1gi+3s6ob48kt0x5wta4oxdum8uq9tmnyku2ujyaya...@mail.gmail.com%3e > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > You can find more about graduation policy in here: > >> >> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> > Qing > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >
