Ok, thanks Sheng. I will get a ticket created. Looks like there are releases hosted on dist.mxnet.io and repo.mxnet.io as well? Are we looking for INFRA to host those as well?
I see discuss.mxnet.io is now being archived to discuss-arch...@mxnet.apache.org. Is there a similar plan in the works for discuss.gluon.ai? Makes sense on the brand management review, I will hold off until we hear from INFRA. Mike On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 12:31 PM Sheng Zha <szha....@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > Thank you for offering to help. Yes, that’s the correct understanding. > > For brand management, we still haven’t started the review yet. On the other > hand, if the hosting is on Apache infra and PPMC manages the site, then the > site will no longer be owned by a third party. > > Thanks, > Sheng > > > On Jul 5, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Michael Wall <mjw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Did a ticket ever get opened for this? I can open one, but want to > > verify my understanding: > > > > "We want to explore the possibility of hosting discuss.mxnet.io and > > discuss.gluon.ai on Apache infrastructure and hook into Apache user > > management." > > > > Shane also asked if we started a conversation with Brand management. > > How can I help there? > > > > Mike > > > >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:03 AM Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> I think we can start by opening a ticket with infra referring to this > >> thread. > >> > >> -Marco > >> > >> Sheng Zha <szha....@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 18. Juni 2020, 09:45: > >> > >>> Hi Shane, > >>> > >>> Thanks for the comment. With my apache hat on, I definitely agree that it > >>> would be better to have such forum on Apache managed infra. I’ve started > >>> with discussion archive to ensure that everything is recorded, and I think > >>> I can quickly try to make the backups of that forum accessible to the PPMC > >>> and Apache infra. > >>> > >>> I think the best way to achieve the goal of continuity, eventually, would > >>> be to host it on Apache infrastructure and have its hosting funded by ASF. > >>> How do we go about requesting this? > >>> > >>> As for the trademark review, we started working on reviewing the binary > >>> distribution usage and are currently focusing on the more pressing issue > >>> there. We will get to the domain name usage afterwards. > >>> > >>> -sz > >>> > >>>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:07 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 2020/06/12 22:39:10, Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: ... > >>>>> The mxnet.io domain is not under control of the ASF. If we say that a > >>> user > >>>>> facing platform is managed and endorsed by the PPMC, we should make it > >>>>> available under the ASF domain system to further represent the official > >>>>> affiliation. Also, it removes a weak link in the chain - e.g. the case > >>> when > >>>>> the mxnet.io domain ran out and broke quite a bit of stuff. Since the > >>> ASF > >>>>> offers subdomains for projects, I don't see any reason why not to use > >>> them. > >>>> > >>>> This is the core issue for me, from the larger Apache perspective. > >>>> Domain names using Apache marks - especially when they have interactive > >>>> traffic about the Apache project itself - work best when the domain name > >>>> itself is owned by the ASF. That ensures continuity for the future, in > >>>> the case where a party (which includes individual PMC members) stops > >>>> contributing to the project. When the ASF Infra team has direct admin > >>>> access to a service or domain, we know that the ASF will be able to > >>>> manage it for the future. > >>>> > >>>> Also, has the PPMC worked with Apache Brand Management on use of > >>>> trademarks in domain names? > >>>> > >>>> https://apache.org/foundation/marks/domains > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> - Shane > >>>> Director & Member > >>>> The Apache Software Foundation > >>>
