Hello, Has there been any update on this matter?
Best regards Marco Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com> schrieb am Sa., 13. Juni 2020, 00:39: > Thanks for elaborating! > > You are right, there's no requirement to host on ASF infrastructure. I was > just thinking about what happens when that funding is cut or when there's > an issue. What's the strategy to ensure no data loss in case of priority > shift or defunding from Amazon? Opposed to the CI which is fully codified > and under version control, we as PMC have no means to recover from a > disaster in case of Discourse. > > The mxnet.io domain is not under control of the ASF. If we say that a > user facing platform is managed and endorsed by the PPMC, we should make it > available under the ASF domain system to further represent the official > affiliation. Also, it removes a weak link in the chain - e.g. the case when > the mxnet.io domain ran out and broke quite a bit of stuff. Since the ASF > offers subdomains for projects, I don't see any reason why not to use them. > > Could you open a ticket with INFRA to check what authentication options > they are offering? I couldn't find any info on the website. > > -Marco > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:24 AM Sheng Zha <zhash...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > Could you elaborate about the hosting of the forum? Is there the >> > possibility to move it to some ASF-managed webhost (I'm not sure about >> the >> > complexity of hosting Discourse)? >> >> The website is currently a subscribed hosted service provided by >> discourse, donated by Amazon. It is possible to host it ourselves but it >> would incur additional operational cost. In addition, I'm not aware of a >> requirement to have it on ASF infrastructure, given that it's only for >> answering user questions and we don't conduct official Apache MXNet >> businesses there. >> >> > Also, I'd suggest to make an Apache managed subdomain the main domain >> (e.g. >> > https://discuss.mxnet.apache.org/ <https://mxnet.apache.org/>). The >> > existing domain could be a redirect. >> >> I don't see a benefit of doing that, nor am I aware of a requirement for >> it. >> >> > Additionally, can we hook it up to the Apache IDP to allow committers >> and >> > pmc members to be automatically authorized? >> >> This sounds like a good idea though I'm not sure how to proceed. If >> someone knows how to proceed I'm happy to help grant necessary access to it. >> >> -sz >> >> >> On 2020/06/12 22:07:47, Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi Sheng, >> > >> > thanks for the quick response. >> > >> > Could you elaborate about the hosting of the forum? Is there the >> > possibility to move it to some ASF-managed webhost (I'm not sure about >> the >> > complexity of hosting Discourse)? >> > >> > Also, I'd suggest to make an Apache managed subdomain the main domain >> (e.g. >> > https://discuss.mxnet.apache.org/ <https://mxnet.apache.org/>). The >> > existing domain could be a redirect. >> > >> > Additionally, can we hook it up to the Apache IDP to allow committers >> and >> > pmc members to be automatically authorized? >> > >> > Best regards >> > Marco >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:24 PM Sheng Zha <zhash...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Marco, >> > > >> > > I'm an admin of that website along with a couple of other PPMC >> members. >> > > This forum has been around for some time and has been helpful in >> connecting >> > > users of mxnet to the developer community. I think it's in the best >> > > interest of this community to consider this under PPMC control for >> better >> > > discoverability under the mxnet domain name. I'm happy to grant you >> admin >> > > access if you or any other PPMC members need it. If you feel >> otherwise, >> > > feel free to propose how you suggest we proceed. >> > > >> > > -sz >> > > >> > > On 2020/06/12 21:07:28, Marco de Abreu <marcoab...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > > Hi everyone, >> > > > >> > > > Due to a PR [1] I had a closer look at discuss.mxnet.io which is a >> > > forum to >> > > > discuss about MXNet. It's a very helpful platform and provides great >> > > > assistance for the community. >> > > > >> > > > When I looked into the terms of services [2] though, I noticed that >> the >> > > ASF >> > > > and MXNet ppmc are mentioned as owners. >> > > > >> > > > From my understanding, that forum and the domain are not managed by >> the >> > > ASF >> > > > or the mxnet ppmc. Thus, that statement does not seem correct and is >> > > rather >> > > > a trademark infringement. My understanding is that the platform is >> > > operated >> > > > by a third party as a community service towards MXNet. Thus, I >> think it's >> > > > important to properly express who's responsible for that platform. >> > > > >> > > > If somebody has any knowledge about the owner of that forum, I'd >> > > appreciate >> > > > if they could give them a heads up for this thread. >> > > > >> > > > Best regards >> > > > Marco >> > > > >> > > > [1]: https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/18553/files >> > > > [2]: https://discuss.mxnet.io/tos >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
