To address the data loss concern, I'm setting up an archive for all future posts on discuss.mxnet.io to the new archive list [1]. It will take me a while before I get time to work on the rest.
-sz [1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?discuss-arch...@mxnet.apache.org On 2020/06/12 22:39:10, Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for elaborating! > > You are right, there's no requirement to host on ASF infrastructure. I was > just thinking about what happens when that funding is cut or when there's > an issue. What's the strategy to ensure no data loss in case of priority > shift or defunding from Amazon? Opposed to the CI which is fully codified > and under version control, we as PMC have no means to recover from a > disaster in case of Discourse. > > The mxnet.io domain is not under control of the ASF. If we say that a user > facing platform is managed and endorsed by the PPMC, we should make it > available under the ASF domain system to further represent the official > affiliation. Also, it removes a weak link in the chain - e.g. the case when > the mxnet.io domain ran out and broke quite a bit of stuff. Since the ASF > offers subdomains for projects, I don't see any reason why not to use them. > > Could you open a ticket with INFRA to check what authentication options > they are offering? I couldn't find any info on the website. > > -Marco > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:24 AM Sheng Zha <zhash...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Could you elaborate about the hosting of the forum? Is there the > > > possibility to move it to some ASF-managed webhost (I'm not sure about > > the > > > complexity of hosting Discourse)? > > > > The website is currently a subscribed hosted service provided by > > discourse, donated by Amazon. It is possible to host it ourselves but it > > would incur additional operational cost. In addition, I'm not aware of a > > requirement to have it on ASF infrastructure, given that it's only for > > answering user questions and we don't conduct official Apache MXNet > > businesses there. > > > > > Also, I'd suggest to make an Apache managed subdomain the main domain > > (e.g. > > > https://discuss.mxnet.apache.org/ <https://mxnet.apache.org/>). The > > > existing domain could be a redirect. > > > > I don't see a benefit of doing that, nor am I aware of a requirement for > > it. > > > > > Additionally, can we hook it up to the Apache IDP to allow committers and > > > pmc members to be automatically authorized? > > > > This sounds like a good idea though I'm not sure how to proceed. If > > someone knows how to proceed I'm happy to help grant necessary access to it. > > > > -sz > > > > > > On 2020/06/12 22:07:47, Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > > > thanks for the quick response. > > > > > > Could you elaborate about the hosting of the forum? Is there the > > > possibility to move it to some ASF-managed webhost (I'm not sure about > > the > > > complexity of hosting Discourse)? > > > > > > Also, I'd suggest to make an Apache managed subdomain the main domain > > (e.g. > > > https://discuss.mxnet.apache.org/ <https://mxnet.apache.org/>). The > > > existing domain could be a redirect. > > > > > > Additionally, can we hook it up to the Apache IDP to allow committers and > > > pmc members to be automatically authorized? > > > > > > Best regards > > > Marco > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:24 PM Sheng Zha <zhash...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Marco, > > > > > > > > I'm an admin of that website along with a couple of other PPMC members. > > > > This forum has been around for some time and has been helpful in > > connecting > > > > users of mxnet to the developer community. I think it's in the best > > > > interest of this community to consider this under PPMC control for > > better > > > > discoverability under the mxnet domain name. I'm happy to grant you > > admin > > > > access if you or any other PPMC members need it. If you feel otherwise, > > > > feel free to propose how you suggest we proceed. > > > > > > > > -sz > > > > > > > > On 2020/06/12 21:07:28, Marco de Abreu <marcoab...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > Due to a PR [1] I had a closer look at discuss.mxnet.io which is a > > > > forum to > > > > > discuss about MXNet. It's a very helpful platform and provides great > > > > > assistance for the community. > > > > > > > > > > When I looked into the terms of services [2] though, I noticed that > > the > > > > ASF > > > > > and MXNet ppmc are mentioned as owners. > > > > > > > > > > From my understanding, that forum and the domain are not managed by > > the > > > > ASF > > > > > or the mxnet ppmc. Thus, that statement does not seem correct and is > > > > rather > > > > > a trademark infringement. My understanding is that the platform is > > > > operated > > > > > by a third party as a community service towards MXNet. Thus, I think > > it's > > > > > important to properly express who's responsible for that platform. > > > > > > > > > > If somebody has any knowledge about the owner of that forum, I'd > > > > appreciate > > > > > if they could give them a heads up for this thread. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > > > [1]: https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/18553/files > > > > > [2]: https://discuss.mxnet.io/tos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
