Yes, it did. And that was and is the outcome. How is Debian NetBeans modified?
Gj On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:37 AM Emilian Bold <[email protected]> wrote: > The discussion never had an outcome. That is why I'm asking. Debian > NetBeans is *modified*. > > --emi > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:31 PM Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > If NetBeans is unmodified it is NetBeans, regardless of what you want to > > combine it with. It's been discussed and this is the outcome. > > > > Gj > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:04 AM Emilian Bold <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > Any particular reason? > > > > > > Well, I saw the new release, then the snapcraft release which reminded > > > me of the other NetBeans 'forks' under, for example, Debian which > > > still call themselves NetBeans although they are not released by > > > Apache. So I remembered we had a talk long ago about this. > > > > > > From a pure precedent view, if Debian is able to call their package > > > NetBeans and (heavily) patch the codebase to fit their needs, others > > > should be able to do the same. (Not to mention how distros patch or > > > add/remove modules to Apache HTTPD, etc). > > > > > > In particular, if I just take NetBeans and slap AdoptOpenJDK to it, > > > then I don't see under what interpretation Apache Legal or the > > > NetBeans PMC should send a cease and desist. But this is just an > > > example: a FAQ should perhaps clarify this. > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM Neil C Smith <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2019, 06:12 Emilian Bold, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm curious what the PMC stance on the NetBeans brand and > trademark is > > > > > these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any particular reason? > > > > > > > > I personally remain of the view that convenience binaries made by > anyone > > > > from our (unmodified) source releases should be allowed under > nominative > > > > fair use. That seems in line with the ASF FAQ linked earlier. Not > sure > > > > we've progressed any further on the issue though? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
