Interesting, a pretty knowledgeable person there who could be contributing to NetBeans directly, do you know who it is?
It would be great if you'd bundle CoolBeans with a JDK distro, e.g., AdoptOpenJDK. Will you do it? Gj On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:53 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Could you point me to some document with the conclusion (FAQ, or whatever)? > > > How is Debian NetBeans modified? > > https://sources.debian.org/src/netbeans/10.0-3/debian/patches/ for > starters. > > --emi > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > Yes, it did. And that was and is the outcome. > > > > How is Debian NetBeans modified? > > > > Gj > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:37 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > The discussion never had an outcome. That is why I'm asking. Debian > > > NetBeans is *modified*. > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:31 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If NetBeans is unmodified it is NetBeans, regardless of what you > want to > > > > combine it with. It's been discussed and this is the outcome. > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:04 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Any particular reason? > > > > > > > > > > Well, I saw the new release, then the snapcraft release which > reminded > > > > > me of the other NetBeans 'forks' under, for example, Debian which > > > > > still call themselves NetBeans although they are not released by > > > > > Apache. So I remembered we had a talk long ago about this. > > > > > > > > > > From a pure precedent view, if Debian is able to call their package > > > > > NetBeans and (heavily) patch the codebase to fit their needs, > others > > > > > should be able to do the same. (Not to mention how distros patch or > > > > > add/remove modules to Apache HTTPD, etc). > > > > > > > > > > In particular, if I just take NetBeans and slap AdoptOpenJDK to it, > > > > > then I don't see under what interpretation Apache Legal or the > > > > > NetBeans PMC should send a cease and desist. But this is just an > > > > > example: a FAQ should perhaps clarify this. > > > > > > > > > > --emi > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM Neil C Smith < > neilcsm...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2019, 06:12 Emilian Bold, <emilian.b...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious what the PMC stance on the NetBeans brand and > > > trademark is > > > > > > > these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any particular reason? > > > > > > > > > > > > I personally remain of the view that convenience binaries made by > > > anyone > > > > > > from our (unmodified) source releases should be allowed under > > > nominative > > > > > > fair use. That seems in line with the ASF FAQ linked earlier. Not > > > sure > > > > > > we've progressed any further on the issue though? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
