Seems to be Markus Koschany, I'll contact him. If the distro is really different in a significant way, they could call it DebianBeans, maybe. :-)
Gj On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> wrote: > Interesting, a pretty knowledgeable person there who could be contributing > to NetBeans directly, do you know who it is? > > It would be great if you'd bundle CoolBeans with a JDK distro, e.g., > AdoptOpenJDK. Will you do it? > > Gj > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:53 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Could you point me to some document with the conclusion (FAQ, or >> whatever)? >> >> > How is Debian NetBeans modified? >> >> https://sources.debian.org/src/netbeans/10.0-3/debian/patches/ for >> starters. >> >> --emi >> >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >> > Yes, it did. And that was and is the outcome. >> > >> > How is Debian NetBeans modified? >> > >> > Gj >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:37 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > The discussion never had an outcome. That is why I'm asking. Debian >> > > NetBeans is *modified*. >> > > >> > > --emi >> > > >> > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:31 PM Geertjan Wielenga < >> geert...@apache.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > If NetBeans is unmodified it is NetBeans, regardless of what you >> want to >> > > > combine it with. It's been discussed and this is the outcome. >> > > > >> > > > Gj >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:04 AM Emilian Bold < >> emilian.b...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > > Any particular reason? >> > > > > >> > > > > Well, I saw the new release, then the snapcraft release which >> reminded >> > > > > me of the other NetBeans 'forks' under, for example, Debian which >> > > > > still call themselves NetBeans although they are not released by >> > > > > Apache. So I remembered we had a talk long ago about this. >> > > > > >> > > > > From a pure precedent view, if Debian is able to call their >> package >> > > > > NetBeans and (heavily) patch the codebase to fit their needs, >> others >> > > > > should be able to do the same. (Not to mention how distros patch >> or >> > > > > add/remove modules to Apache HTTPD, etc). >> > > > > >> > > > > In particular, if I just take NetBeans and slap AdoptOpenJDK to >> it, >> > > > > then I don't see under what interpretation Apache Legal or the >> > > > > NetBeans PMC should send a cease and desist. But this is just an >> > > > > example: a FAQ should perhaps clarify this. >> > > > > >> > > > > --emi >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM Neil C Smith < >> neilcsm...@apache.org> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2019, 06:12 Emilian Bold, <emilian.b...@gmail.com >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I'm curious what the PMC stance on the NetBeans brand and >> > > trademark is >> > > > > > > these days. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Any particular reason? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I personally remain of the view that convenience binaries made >> by >> > > anyone >> > > > > > from our (unmodified) source releases should be allowed under >> > > nominative >> > > > > > fair use. That seems in line with the ASF FAQ linked earlier. >> Not >> > > sure >> > > > > > we've progressed any further on the issue though? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Neil >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > > >> > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > >> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >>
