IMHO, if the plugin works and compiles and just has little feature support or 
missing features, there shouldn‘t be a big problem to have it in the NetBeans 
Code w/o someone having owned it. Someday, someone will own it. Atm more or 
less the JS and HTML code is not touched that often and it is still there and 
will not be removed because of no one owns it. If the code/plugin makes sense 
and if it is working, Oracle should donate it. Everyone who wants to change 
smth, will do it probably.

Also, I would like to see such live sharing feature in NetBeans. It is not that 
out of Topic, because it could help here in such times too. It is called live 
sharing: https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2017/11/15/live-share

There is no Need to create a new infrastructure for that, because it is still 
there. Somewhere there is a server, where I or you can login (I think with a 
GitHub account) and create an live sharing id, share it with your pair 
programming partner and they can join. Unfortunately the code is not open 
source, but they have a documentation about that: 
https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/live-share
Maybe it helps. I had a look into it, couple of months ago but not deep enough. 
It is not to say: I want that, it was just an info for that discussion here 
that such a feature could make sense for the collaboration kit plugin too😊. The 
use of the Plugin of VS Code is really nice and works quite good.


Cheers and happy eastern

Chris



Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. April 2020 11:33
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: NetBeans Collaboration Kit

We need to be very simple and strict here — if no one is going to own the
code, Oracle should not be asked to spend time and effort auditing and
donating it to Apache.

Gj

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 11:31, ehsavoie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes I loved this collaborative tool back in the days :) but my dev time is
> limited for this :(
> Maybe integration with some kafka like tooling  would boost this.
>
> ----------
> Emmanuel Hugonnet
> http://www.ehsavoie.com
> http://twitter.com/ehsavoie
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:31 AM Daoud Abdelmonem Faleh <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Maybe something based on operation transformation with backends running
> on
> > either Websockets or Jabber protocoles
> >
> > http://operational-transformation.github.io/
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 9, 2020, at 21:26, Sven Reimers <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Anybody on the list here remembering the "connected developer " stuff
> in
> > > NetBeans... This was a great feature set to connect developers using
> > > NetBeans integrated in NetBeans. It contained an integrated Jabber
> > Client,
> > > a way to live share file edits and more cool stuff...
> > >
> > > Somehow the actual situation with everyone working from home -
> > desperately
> > > looking for connectivity reminded me of those features and I was
> > astonished
> > > that we never discussed those modules for transfer to Apache NetBeans
> > >
> > > I am in no position to claim that I would be able to maintain those,
> but
> > I
> > > thought this may be worth a try..   So I compiled the code from the
> > > original repo and put them into a 12.0beta2 and they installed ok, just
> > > trying to connect and authenticate to a jabber service I got into
> > problems
> > > with TLS ...
> > >
> > > So two questions: Anyone interested in this stuff? Should we start
> > thinking
> > > about getting this over to Apache? From an architectural standpoint
> > Jabber
> > > is only one implementation in the backend - seems we could use other
> > > technologies as well....
> > >
> > > Maybe there are more gems hidden in the bowls from hg.netbeans.org...
> > >
> > > Looking forward to any comments
> > >
> > > -Sven
> > >
> > > Links for your reference:
> > > https://netbeans.org/kb/articles/quickstart-collaboration.html
> > > https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/ide/team-servers.html
> > > --
> > > Sven Reimers
> > >
> > > * Java Champion
> > > * Apache NetBeans PMC: http://netbeans.apache.org
> > > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee
> > > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018
> > >
> > > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
> >
>

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